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Here’s Why The 5.0L Coyote V8 Engine Will Never Be Used In The New Bronco

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It’s no secret that enthusiasts have been clamoring for a V8-powered version of the 2021 Ford Bronco, particularly one packing Ford’s 5.0L Coyote V8. And though the aftermarket will most certainly provide at least one version of the new Bronco with the Coyote underhood, it doesn’t seem like we’ll ever see the sixth-generation Ford Bronco come equipped with a V8 from the factory.

Ford Authority executive editor, Alex Luft, spoke with Bronco Chief Engineer Eric Loeffler at the Bronco Day event last month. Loeffler admitted that Ford never considered offering the new Bronco with Ford’s 5.0L Coyote V8, as the automaker is confident that its 2.3L EcoBoost I-4 and 2.7L EcoBoost V6 will suit its customers just fine.

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“The powertrains that we have we believe are the appropriate size, weight, and horsepower for what customers need to do,” Loeffler said, referring to the two EcoBoost engines. “You’ll feel that when you drive the one with the 2.7, it’s quite adequate, particularly when you start getting into where you want to put the weight in the vehicle and balance and torque and so on, it was just the right fit for the car.”

Projected output for Ford’s 2.3L EcoBoost I-4 in the Bronco is 270 horsepower and 310 pound-feet of torque, while the 2.7L EcoBoost V6 is projected to produce 310 horsepower and 400 pound-feet of torque in this application.

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The Ford Bronco Raptor will come equipped with Ford’s 3.0L EcoBoost V6 producing around 400 horsepower. That range-topping model, which might end up being called Warthog, as per Ford’s trademark filing, is expected to be added to the lineup for the 2023 model year towards the end of the 2022 calendar year.

We’ll have much more on the Bronco very soon, so be sure and subscribe to Ford Authority for more Ford Bronco news and continuous Ford news coverage.

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Written by Brett Foote

Brett's lost track of all the Fords he's owned over the years and how much he's spent modifying them, but his current money pits include an S550 Mustang and 13th gen F-150.

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  1. Memo to Loeffler: Spend less time listening to the talking heads in marketing, and more time listening to true enthusiasts. “Adequate” is never enough power, too much is the starting point, and you build on that.

    • Your comment is only true for a very small subset of the population. For most, the EcoBoosts will be more than good enough. Time to step out of the dinosaur era…

      • Unfortunately I think your comment @rick allbrite is too close to accurate.
        The days of the heart leading the head in large automakers is long gone 🙁

  2. I see no reason for putting a V8 in a bronco as the 3.0 litre eco boost is a ripper.As for realiblty eco boost engines with the correct regular maintenance can do monster miles so realibty is not a issue.If ford do put a V8 in the bronco then give people the choice of the 3.0 liter eco boost or the V8(i bet a lot will go with the 3.0 liter eco boost).Just becuase jeep are saying they are going to do it ford do need to follow!.

  3. Beyond the love of the sound that a V8 engine makes, when it comes to power, there really is no reason for a V8 engine anymore. Let’s look at this realistically. The 5.0L that would be put in the Bronco, if it were to have happened, wouldn’t have been the Mustang GT spec variant, it would have been the truck variant, which makes 395hp/400lb-ft of torque. The 2.7L in Bronco specs puts out 310hp/400lb-ft of torque. While yes that’s an 85hp difference, the Bronco is alot smaller and lighter. Not to mention the top of the line bronco is rumored to be receiving a 400hp/415tq 3.0 that out powers the V8 in both raw horsepower and torque so the V8 is not needed. What’s truly nice is that these power plants, along with the 2.3L Hybrid, will be in the ranger as well.

    If you really want to be honest, Ford doesn’t need a V8 in ANY of their vehicles at all. Ford could literally drop the 5.0L Coyote, 5.2L Voodoo and 5.2L Predator V8 engines and never skip a beat. Ford has three power levels of the 3.5L ecoboost, (375hp/470tq, 450hp/510tq and 660hp/550tq) given that the first two are in trucks and not cars, the horsepower for cars would probably be more like 405hp/430tq & 475hp/490tq. We already have two variants of the 3.0L Ecoboost being the 400hp/415tq all gas and the 494hp/630tq hybrid in the Aviator. the only issue with the Aviator is the overall weight of the vehicle and a driveline tuned more for comfort that acceleration and performance. The Current 5.0L in the Mustang makes 460-480hp and 420lb-ft of torque. Which is shy of what a mid-tuned 3.5L Ecoboost can do and nearly all of the V6 ecoboost engines can either nearly match torque or completely outdo the torque of the N/A 5.0L or even the 5.2L Voodoo. While the 5.2L predator is more powerful than the Supercar tuned 3.5L Ecoboost, a 10-speed (or 7-speed DCT) hybrid would put the car in the territory of Mopar’s Hellcat Redeye machines with alot less weight and better overall performance. If Ford were to play it’s cards right at the current moment, they could have some serious vehicles with just the Ranger/Bronco platform and the upcoming CD6 platform vehicles being the Explorer and Mustang family of vehicles and they’d never have to drop a V8 in anything. Give the upcoming ranger the option of a 6ft bed with a super crew cab (full four doors), a better, more F150 like interior and new exterior styling and The Ranger would be the truck to beat. bring out the S650 Mustang in coupe/vert, 4-door coupe and Crossover coupe (gasoline & hybrid) and Ford can get rid of the Edge and the Fusion right there. Offer all of those engine combinations above along with the 2.3L 350hp/350tq as the base engine under the 2.3L Hybrid and go from there. Same with the Explorer. Drop the Escape and just have the Bronco sport and Courier, Offer the 350hp 2.3L as a top of the line engine above the 2.0L Ecoboost that be the small car lineup. Turn every single fleet vehicle to electric and just get that out of the way. Take that Supercar spec 3.5L ecoboost, drop it in a short bed F150, tune it right, give it a good sounding side exit exhaust and bring us back the lightning and give it a full four door option as well. Take that same 660hp 3.5L V6 and throw it in the Raptor and go after the TRX. Electrify the Super duty lineup and bring back the excursion and market it against the new Hummer SUV and Hummer Truck from GMC. Oh, and add the 3.0L Ecoboost Hybrid 494hp/630lb-ft torque to the Expedition as well as the 450hp/510tq setup and the 400hp/415tq setup. As far as the electric passenger vehicles go, yeah make the Mach E and make it more performance oriented, give us a taste of the RTR or Cobra Jet 1400 (maybe not that extreme but you get the idea). Make electric performance Crossovers and Crossover coupes, bring back the C-Max and make it electric. Long story short, no you don’t need a V8 in anything. Oh yeah, and it’s time to seriously re-tool Ford Performance, Roush, Steeda and Mountune and bring them all under the Ford Performance umbrella and seriously get into the ecoboost performance upgrades. It’s time for better exhaust system, turbo upgrades, intercoolers, blow off valves, new suspension ideas and partnerships with other aftermarket companies besides Borla. There are several companies out there with top notch quality that really get it when it comes to turbocharged performance and would really be beneficial to Ford Performance when it comes to upgrades that would still be able to be used on factory tuned vehicles. Greddy, HKS and so many others come to mind when it comes to this stuff. It’s really time to get on the ball.

    • No one “Needs” the hellcat, the coyote,the LS series… the reality is… That’s what people WANT!! Take the Tbird… same stupid scenario. No V-8 no sales. (Yes I know they put in an anemic v-8 in at the end..) Plymouth Prowler… and a few more, they failed because they refused to offer a V-8. No one buys a Bronco to have an “adequate” power plant! Well, except for the Bronco II owners!!🤣

      • Here’s the problem with your statement. Back when the T-Bird, Prowler and other cars like that were around, there were no real alternatives in power beyond the V8 back then. That’s not the case now. Back then we didn’t have a 660hp 3.5L ecoboost running around or anything like that. The only real benefit a V8 has is sound now days. It was cool back in the day because V8 engines were simple push rods and they were cheap and easy to build. Those days are gone unfortunately. The thing is now we do have other powertrains besides the V8 engines that offer equal or better power and if done right, sound good as well.

        • I don’t see a problem for those of you who want the EcoBoost 2.4,2.7,3.0 buy it for those of us who want a 5.0 V8 even if it’s the F150 build it. Ford is building a EcoBoost and a V8 Raptor the same market Exist for the Bronco. Maintenance and reliability alone cost less. If Plymouth-Chrysler had a V8 for the Prowler they would have sold a hell of a lot more of them. If you take the V8 option away from the Mustang that Pony is DEAD PERIOD. It’s not just the sound but the SOUL of that vehicle. Competition breeds great products

    • Ordered an F250 with the new 7.3 L V8. We have A-plan through Ford, but if they didn’t offer a V8 I wouldn’t have even considered it, even with our discount. Yes a turbo 6 can make as much or more horsepower. But I would rather have a bigger, simpler engine that is not working nearly as hard to make that power. I want my truck to last 20 years, not 5 and then trade.

  4. So if you skip the Bronco because it wont’ have a V-8 then what other ride are you considering? If you say the current gen Wrangle then your “want” for the V-8 argument just became invalid as the Wrangler doesn’t have one either and therefore Ford isn’t losing your purchase to a competitor. If Jeep does drop a V-8 to me its just a straight up ploy to say were better because for decades not Jeep has not put a V-8 in and there has been comments to do so is borderline reckless. Also how much power do you really need for crying out loud when you consider the Bronco in Crawler gear can create over 29,000 fl/lb of wheel torque… At some point too much power just equals more/easier wheel spin at lower RPM’s which often is not helpful..

    • Jeep will put a V8 in the Wrangler if only for sales of new customers, Ford should do the same as they have with the Raptor since hearing Dodge announcement of a SuperChargered V8. The V8 ain’t dead yet so put one in it.In the years to come all V8s will be the most sort out models of enthusiast, classics, and investment

  5. ““The powertrains that we have we believe are the appropriate size, weight, and horsepower for what customers need to do””
    How friggin arrogant! The sooner Ford learns that it’s all about what the customer WANTS, the sooner the company will see a tsunami of sales flying out of the dealership doors!

    • No, YOU and enthusiasts want V8’s. YOU and traditionalists want V8’s, but the market, your average buyer, market proof indicates that people who actually BUY CARS don’t want them. Cognitive dissonance is an ugly thing that you’ll have to learn to deal with.
      What’s arrogant is assuming that YOU’RE smarter than provable fact. The FACT is that people don’t want (or need) V8 engines in their vehicles. The FACT is that enthusiast who want V8’s don’t purchase them. The FACT is that enthusiasts don’t buy vehicles on any kind of regular basis, but the average, non-traditionalist buyer DOES buy vehicles.

  6. No, you’re thinking about enthusiasts, not the average buyer, who typically purchases more vehicles in their lifetime. I can tell you from personal experience as a former salesman and detailer. In my talks with people, you’d be surprised how many people can’t tell you what powertrain they have and sometimes, what the model is. Of course YOU and I would know what powertrain our vehicles have.
    Thought process of the average buyer? When I hit the wide pedal on the left, the vehicle slows down and when the skinny pedal on the right is pressed down, the vehicle speeds up. How? I dunno. But it’s fast enough to pass people and does well on gas, so who cares.
    The enthusiasts might care, but they aren’t buying. Not as much as your average Joe who views new vehicles as a status symbol.
    But please do remember, V8’s in the modern era are more about nostalgia as opposed to a necessity, as they used to be.

    • Not True- I own 6 Fords All V8, the cheap models sales the most because most people want the look. AKA Mustang 60% are EcoBoost 4, 40% are V8 GT, Then there’s the top models Cobra ,GT350, and GT500. As long as Ford has a V8 on the market build it that the one Am going to buy. When Ford No longer build V8s then these Conversation will be valid

  7. See this is the ish that really irritates me, quit assuming that this is what’s best for customers. Yes the ecoboost 4 has V6 power and the ecoboost 6 has V8 power. But there’s nothing like the raw unadulterated naturally asperated V8, build it and they will come.

    • Based on what evidence? The market as a whole is moving away from V8’s. Enthusiasts want V8’s, but market proof shows that most buyers don’t care. No assumptions made.
      You should work on reading comprehension. Cognitive dissonance is hard to overcome, but critical to thinking.

  8. You can go back and forth on the engine, but it is a matter of what you expect from the engine (and drivetrain as a whole).
    Those who depend on the engine for reliability, ease of maintenance, home/self repairs, long lasting/high mileage, will not choose the eco-boost. Regardless of lab/test numbers/specs…it cannot be relied on. It has a horrible record overall, I am not talking about “I know someone who had one and it was great”. I am talking about the average mileage able to get from one before heavy parts fatigue and how often the factory has had to make improvements (which is a lot on the eco-boost). The 281 was statistically the most reliable (based on above criteria) engine Ford has ever produced. The 5.0 (if you include all versions) stands pretty well in reliability, it is actually 4th with statistics standing like this 4.6, 300 ci straight 6, 460, 5.0. This stats include cost of maintaining and engine, high mileage ability (I plugged in over 300,000 as my baseline). 3 of these engines have 20+ years as Gov Service Vehicles, which also proved reliability. I do not think we will see many eco-boosts in service with over 300,000 miles.
    Now…if you do not expect any of those things from your engine, and drive 30k a year, and will only own 3-5 years, the eco will probably do ok…though you will still spend on repairs.

    So that is my dime, other’s mileage may vary.

  9. Why would you ever want to add turbochargers and more moving parts to try and fire more power out of an Engine that small? The fact is the ecoboost reliability is the worst of any engine ever. Turbochargers go bad timing chains stretch and you are looking at either replacing turbochargers, huge engine work bills, or a new engine by 125k. A 5L is a lighter engine has more power and can meet the same fuel consumption and has no turbochargers to go bad. Those engines just purr along till well over 350k and they are cheaper…

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