A new proposed class-action lawsuit filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of Delaware is targeting Ford EcoBoost four-cylinder engines produced since 2010. The suit alleges that these Ford EcoBoost engines have an inherent defect that causes coolant to leak into the cylinders, which in turn leads to corrosion, misfires, engine failure, and fires.
The lawsuit alleges that Ford has known about this defect since 2010, based on pre-production testing, as well as numerous complaints filed by customers to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. However, the automaker has supposedly not yet addressed the problem or provided any solutions for owners of affected vehicles, outside of offering to install coolant level sensors, which don’t actually keep the coolant from leaking.
This problem reportedly stems from a defect in the design of the engine block and cylinder head, as well as an inadequate seal on the head, which then allows coolant to seep into the combustion chambers. The problem reportedly affects Ford’s 1.5L EcoBoost, 1.6L EcoBoost, and 2.0L EcoBoost engines used in a variety of vehicles including the Ford Escape, Ford Fusion, Ford Edge, Lincoln MKC, and Lincoln MKZ.
Aside from the aforementioned problems this causes, low coolant levels can also lead to engines overheating and causing damage to pistons and other internal components, as well as cracked cylinder heads. Ford issued a number of technical service bulletins between 2018-2020 related to this problem, as well as a recall in 2017 to install the aforementioned coolant level sensors
Plaintiffs in the case also allege that damage caused by this issue is not covered under warranty, and many have been forced to pay for repairs out of pocket.
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FORD has so much riding on their turbo charged engines. While there’s no excuse for it, early versions of engines often have problems that are corrected over time. But that’s not much consolation for someone who’s car is sitting along the interstate because the engine turned into oatmeal. Takes a long time to win back people to a builder after that.
Crabby I totally agree with you. When a manufacturer has known for years about a defect. Why wouldn’t they (Ford) do something to correct the problem. We have 2016 Ford Edge 2.0 Ecoboost with 48000 miles in the shop with a cracked engine block. Ford will not do anything to help. Ford says that it is past the warranty time frame. But like you said this has been an ongoing problem. Coolant is leaking into the cylinder and fouling the spark plugs and carbon is building up on the cylinder. How do I join this class action lawsuit against Ford? Sorry that you are dealing with this too. But thanks for any help to get something done. In our case we need a new engine
How do you join a class action suit? Both my daughter and I just recently had to replace our engines due to coolant leaking into the engine. We also had to replace the purge valve. We have a 2018 and 2019 Ford Escape Turbo engines.
We just had to have a ford dealer replace the engine in our 2018 Mustang with the 2.3 Ecoboost engine due to head gasket failure and coolant leaking into the crankcase causing the issue.
Ford has know. For over 15 years this motor is crap…Nissan has know their cvt transmissions are crap. These automakers take bailouts and then gouge us, the cars lose resale value quicker than any other vehicles I’ve seen other than a Yugo! They should care but they don’t. I have a 2013 Nissan Sentra with 113,000 miles sitting in driveway bad transmission, I have a 2016 Ford Fusion sitting in driveway bad engine. Both all the maintenance was done religiously. Both vehicles look better than 89% of all out there. They was well taken care of, and yet between the 2 can’t give the
away and to damn expensive to fix as we would have to drive to the wheels fell off because no one wants them. If they do they don’t want to pay anything for them afraid they will fail on them too…60000 dollars together new not worth 2 nickels. Shame on both of the manufacturers for taken advantage of consumers. Promise they will never get another dime of mine or anyone in my family, or for that case anyone who would take this advice. Steer clear and if you want a great vehicle, dependability and the best resale in the business. Buy Toyota!
I am a loyal Ford customer. I have a 2015 Ford Transit 350 XLT that developed a bad vibration AFTER they fixed the recall on the driveshaft. Since the recall was addressed this vibration starts around 40 mph and last till you hit around 60 mph. So in other words the whole time you are driving around town. This van sucks now. They ruined my beautiful van. I have had it back so many times for the same issue. I tried escalating the complaint to Ford, but can’t get any further. They have dismissed my complaint by calling what I am experiencing as a “Common Characteristic trait ” of the vehicle. There’s nothing wrong with it and there’s nothing they can do about it. They refuse to entertain my complaint any longer. Meanwhile for the first three years of ownership there was NEVER a problem. Ford sucks! They are screwing this company up. I am a stock holder who has bought Ford exclusively since 1994 and this is the way they treat their customers.
Have you considered going to a drivetrain shop and having them put a driveshaft in it ? I know thats money out of your pocket, but why be miserable ? Save the bills and if there is a lawsuit down the road, request for pay
Thanks for the suggestion. I may give that a try. It does make me miserable.
I second having your current driveshaft checked and balanced at a driveshaft shop. On a second note, I have experienced similar issues in different vehicles and something to look into if the driveshaft balancing does not cure the vibration would be lateral and/or radial runout of the tires and or wheels.
I was under the impression this was largely associated with the 1.5/1.6 engines, not the 2.0. Our Escape with the 2.0 has been great, 60k and hasn’t been back to the dealer other than tires/oil
My 1.5L engine has 65k on it and the check engine light came on AFTER the PCM recall (and the guys at the dealership joking that it would run worse AFTER the recall was done). New light (RED letters, high engine temp) and i had it towed. Had the call today that internal engine failure and new engine needed. Said they called Ford and they won’t assist in the repair because it’s over the PT warranty. I’ve got a call and case started with Ford. Will NEVER own another Ford. My last Ford was and Explorer and it blew the engine at 99k and the dealership said it was a fluke.
The Ecoboost engines are a disaster and Ford is going to lose hundreds of thousands of customers over them. My 1.6L Ecoboost in a 2015 Ford Escape blew within the powertrain warranty–otherwise I would have been looking at $12,000 for a new engine. This is Ford’s worst engineering disaster after the Ford Pinto! These engines were designed with the sole purpose of boosting Ford’s Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) figures–Ford didn’t care if they blew up just outside of warranty. Ford should be required to offer all Ecoboost engine owners an extended powertrain warranty to at least 100,000 miles. I’m praying my new engine won’t blow for another few years–but if it does, I’m junking the car. And I will buy a Toyota next time!
Hi James, I’m a former Ford man, over 50 years of loyalty. My 2018 Escape 1.5 turbo loaded up with water at just 34K miles. Fortunately I got the engine replaced under warranty. I just traded it in (dumped it) for a Toyota RAV4. Strong 2.5 engine, get the XLE. You’ll love it.
I have a2017 Ford Escape with 6100 miles I was losing coolant and took it in to the dealership and they said I needed a new block at the price of 5300 We called Ford motor and asked for help with the cost and was denied I signed up for a joint a lawsuit
Daniel, could you provide an update to the class action lawsuit, information for the attorneys filing this suit? What state do you live in? I am having similar issues with a 2.0L EcoBoost engine and would like to join any class action lawsuit. Thanks in advance.
124000 on Ford Fusion 2.0 Ecoboost. It is leaking coolant into cylinder 4, it started happening after the warranty was over and now I am looking at a new motor. I don’t know what to do at this point in time. I still owe so much on my car and now I might be paying that money for a car which I can’t drive.
I am having that same issue. My 2014 ford fusion which has 106,000 miles on it which it has coolant in the spark plugs misfire #4 . Towed it to MB ford , the stated there is coolant leaking. Said I need a new engine, 8-10,000 . I passed on that . I was still making payments on my original loan. I couldn’t afford dishing out that amount . So I towed the car back home. Still in the driveway paid off but motor is done. I want to join the class action suit against Ford. I loved my card.
Try having a mechanic put the Bar’s head gasket sealer solution with carbon fiber in it. You might get a few more months out of the engine–one guy who posted here has been driving his Ford a year after this treatment.
Our 2017 2.0 Escape just started to leak internally (head gasket area) with 52k while on a road trip, 1200 miles from home. We kept the coolant topped up and kept the cap loose for the drive home. If the cap is tight and you shut the car off, so much coolant leaks into cylinder #3 that it hydro-locks and cannot start.
You will get no more than 120000 then the motor has to be replaced. Can’t be rebuilt, has to be replaced. 120k is if your lucky as I’ve been seeing them mostly at the 80k. Good luck!
I got a recall notice on this problem and was informed it was a software issue that had to be performed at the dealership. Which it was. I have an 18 Escape SEL Ecoboost. This was about a year ago. Was this the same problem being described here? I have had No problems with my Escape since purchased.
As far as I know the promblem mostly related to the 1.6 eco boost and that engine has been replaced by the 1.5 ecoboost which was moddifed as a result of the 1.6 egine problems.
The 1.5s are affected as well, though it seems to be fewer than the preceding 1.6s. Ford has been replacing most all of the affected engines that are under warranty with either short or long blocks, out-of-warranty costs seem to run $7-$9600. Lotta info on Escape.org and Blue Oval Forums.com.
The 2020-2021 1.5L EcoBoost I-3 engine is a totally different three cylinder engine and is not affected…so far.
Can someone please tell me how these mistakes in auto manufacturing happen at all? Don’t they have strict protocols? Is it just sloppiness? Bad management? People that don’t care? Sheer stupidity? You would think with the amount of money recalls cost the auto industry it would be a rare thing.
They like all car makers try to make as many cars as possible and sometimes quality control isn’t as great. American car manufacturers tend to think short term while others try t think long term.
Quality control is nothing but a marketing term today. Also these vehicles are designed with planned obsolescence at the forefront. They want you to have to buy a new vehicle from them than to design a product that will last much beyond the loan payoff. Most major auto manufacturers would rather spend a few million dollars settling a class action lawsuit so they can make hundreds of millions designing and manufacturing a quality product that lasts. Sadly this includes such iconic brands such as Toyota, Honda and BMW.
Sorry, IO didn’t proofread that. It should read
“Most major auto manufacturers would rather spend a few million dollars settling a class action lawsuit so they can make hundreds of millions designing and manufacturing a quality product that only lasts a long as the loan.
Sorry, I didn’t proofread that. It should read
“Most major auto manufacturers would rather spend a few tens of million of dollars settling a class action lawsuit so they can make hundreds of millions designing and manufacturing a product that only lasts a long as the loan.
Thought I was lucky in a way, when my Focus was totalled from behind. I wanted an Escape but saved money on the Focus. Of course, I had trans problems with the Focus. So now I have an Escape that could have a faulty engine? I think I’m done with Ford.
I had the same problem with my 2019 Fusion. I got a recall notice. They said they fixed. Then engine light came on. I am told engine is dead the day after the recall has been fixed. They replaced the engine in 50 days. The car was in service 5 times in 2 years due to engine light.
I have a 2013 Fusion with the 2 L Ecoboost. No problems regarding the engine. Only recalls for door latch springs and other small stuff
Ford knew about it from an engineering standpoint, they just choose to manufacturer an engine block that was faulty and use cheap gaskets hoping there wouldn’t be a problem. Other manufacturers have done the same thing. If the proper engineering is done from the drawing board these auto manufactures wouldn’t be faced with lawsuits. However, the profits from sales far exceed any payout from lawsuits they lose. It should be a federal crime to put the consumer through the troubles and sometimes danger, so the CEOs and engineers should be held accountable by having to pay monetary restitution as well as serve prison time, and just maybe, it would have the next generation straighten up and fly right.
I have 1.6 eco boost 2013 fusion and I just replaced my head gasket for the 2nd time. Last year I had a bad oil leak so I took it to the dealership, they said it was head gasket and CHARGED ME $2500. When I got it back there was a leak at the valve cover gasket which made me question their service, they refused to acknowledge my complaints even after taking the car back several times and showing them the leak. Eventually I gave up wasting my time. 15 months later, coolant level is low and car misfires at startup. Took off the spark plugs and found coolant in the combustion chamber. Dealership claimed the gasket they replaced was out of warranty, so I took it to another mechanic. The mechanic asked me “where is Fords integrity”? And showed me the built up oil leak on the head block, sludge on the pistons, broken pieces that should have been replaced. Sign me up for that lawsuit, I paid for 2 head gasket services and documented everything with photos, videos, and receipts.
I have some knowledge on how this can happen in a big company.
To my knowledge this is mainly an issue with the 1.6L motor. The group that designed the motor probably ignored design guidelines to achieve some othe objectives they were given.
When the motor first came out they probably all got promoted due to. The great job they did and then the warranty started coming in.
From my experience this is all due to how a company sets up it’s Executive bonus structure. If you are rewarded for short term cost savings then you will sacrifice other things to reach that goal. It happens in a lot of major companies.
The problem here is that if you short change the design of a part then those types of things are much harder to correct once in production.
That being said I am disappointed in how they are handling this issue. To not be proactive and address the issue rather than to wait for the courts to handle it is a great way to loose customers.
Looks like Ford is going back to it’s bad habits from the 1970s and 80’s and early 90’s pre-Taurus. It’s a shame. I saw an in depth review of the Bronco Sport. The interior quality looks cheap and plasticky. I bet the 3 cylinder ecoboost must be “fun”. They’re oozing coolant into the engine even before they’re driving them off the train.
The 1.5L&1.6L & 2.0 L I4s, are all an “Open Deck” design. This means there is a free standing bore in the cylinder rather than just a bore or bore sleeve attached directly to the block. This allows for more cooling in a given space and less material which makes for a lighter block. This design was probably chosen 1) for extra cooling capacity needed for a turbocharged engine 2) cost savings.
There appears to have been a design change to the 1.5L I-4 block at some point in 2017-0r 2018 model year. I can’t post photos here but the newer engines have a different shaped cooling passage between cyl’s 2 & 3.
The bronco sport interior is perfectly fine just becuase it has a hard wearing plastics in places where other manufacturers use soft touch materials in places that are prone to everday abuse useing hard wearing plastics does not mean it is cheap!. I like have hard plastics in places that are prone to getting abuse from everday use.
The 2.3 ecoboom is a “stroked” 2.0, yes it puts out a lot of HP, but as always, you push a lot of HP out of a block, you life expectancy drops, the more you push it, the faster it drops. I know ford has shifted production from Spain to the U.S., this doesn’t change the design, nor how hard they are pushing these turbos. History tells us, naturally aspirated engines, those that were both, designed correctly and were mfg with high quality controls, last a long, long time-hundreds and hundreds of thousands of miles are not uncommon. Toyota (among others) keeps producing NA mills, that just keep running, building a vehicle that is built to last- adds value, the Bic lighter (disposable) attitude does not. I’ve been watching the bronco and the bronco sport (BS). The bronco is supposedly going to be produced with a 2.3 coupled with a chinese made seven speed manual. Zero have been produced, but, I am predicting (few will see off road-they are being purchased for the “look”) those that actually go off road, drop down to the super low granny gear, pushing big meats, in soft mud, winding up the turbo on the 2.3 ecoboom mill, will result in another wave of class action lawsuits. The unibody (made in Mexico) bronco sport (BS), is/has been touted by Ford to be off-road worthy. We shall see, once this soccer mom hauler, meets mud, pushing the tiny three cylinder…… I’d have loved to have seen the bronco being offered with a big, strong, American made manual, NA big V6, optional V8 and a Diesel. Ford offers a Diesel on their Troller (not sold in the US) along with a six speed stick or auto. The bronco is suppose to be a Jeep “killer”, we shall see, if any are ever actually made. There is a large number of FanBoys already! Zero have ever been produced, we need to keep this in mind when listening to the little FanBoys-they know nothing at all in regards to a production bronco!
Look it’s cheaper for Ford to put the hard plastics in rather than soft touch materials. Soft touch can be durable and easy to clean as well. I guess they have an excuse now to use the cheap stuff: ” it’s a Bronco it’s gonna get beat-up so we made it easy to clean” Yeah right.
The seats look cheap also.
Chis, great post, truer words have not been written; however, don’t worry to much about the new broncos getting beat-up or dirty. 99%+ will never see dirt (for many years), the new bronco is being sold to FanBoys. These guys fret over the off road lighting, tire size, winch, color, which trim offers a heated steering wheel, etc. In short, Mall Crawlers, these broncos will spend more time getting washed and waxed than they will off road, God forbid they might get dirty or mud on the carpet! But to ford’s credit, they are a business, Job One at ford is to make as much profit as possible. If they can get the FanBoys to buy cheap, hard plastic, because “it’s easier to clean”, then their hype machine is working well…..
My 2018 ford fusion 1.5 se had to have a short block caused by the coolant leak, didn’t notice till my coolant reservoir was empty and making a gurgling noise. My mom’s 2018 ford escape 1.5 sel had the exact same issue after mine got out the shop. Both had short block swaps. Both had less then 20,000 miles. Luckily the warranty replaced them. We won’t even talk about the transmission issues they won’t fix saying “the shifting issue isn’t damaging the car, it’s normal operation for these vehicles”.
I had this issue with my 2015 Fusion 1.5 Ecoboost.
It had been to shop several times because of the intermittent smoking out exhaust. When Ford finally diagnosed it as this the car had 63,000 miles. But the put a new short block in and fixed the issue. ALL UNDER WARRANTY. I paid nothing. I even had a loaner car while mine was getting fixed. While I hate issues. Ford took care of this quickly and thoroughly. Unlike some of the posts on here.
The problem is that your new engine will fail between 20,000 and 70,000 miles. It’s a crap shoot. My second EcoBoost engine in my Ford Escape failed before 25,000 miles. These engines are garbage. I suggest you trade for a Toyota or Honda, because when your second engine goes, Ford will drop you like a hot potato.
Hi there, I just found this forum and have been reading through the conversations. We are in the same boat. Curious if everyone is having their engines replaced then trading in the vehicle? When trading it in, are we hit for having a new engine and a car that could potentially have the issue again?
I was a Ford tech for 13 years and planned obsolescence is happening in Ford’s engineering department. They make a great engine, but with one glaring defect that is engineered to break after the warranty coverage. Customer doesn’t want to invest the money and buys a new vehicle. The cycle repeats. I refuse to buy garbage and will pay more for something that holds together. Buy Once, Cry Once.
BS. No company tries to design a product to fail after the warranty. How would that benefit any company producing any product if they had a huge failure rate after the warranty expires? Getting a good design can be hard enough, how does on design it to fail at a certain time?
Easy to explain. You choose alloys and heat treatments that you can predict will result in failure after so many hours of operation. In the 60s and 70s, car manufacturers designed manual window cranks to go within 3 – 4 years. As for so many product failures after the warranty period, the manufacturer already has your money, and they just depend on uninformed people–and diehard fanboys–to keep buying their products. Ford is switching to making only trucks so they don’t give a crap if that segment of the buying public who have been buying passenger vehicles never buys from them again.
Now I understand why they dropped the 1.6 in the TRANSIT CONNECT. My work van is a ‘16 and had that as an option and since I pretty much speced it, I’m glad I didn’t. The standard 2.5 is just fine and has great power for what I use it for anyway. Never any problems with this engine.
I just had this issue happened to my Ford Escape! The car was at the dealer for 3 full weeks to get fixed and I had to pay out of my pocket for replacing the engineer entirely!
“”””I had to pay out of my pocket for replacing the engineer entirely!”””” I would have refused-under no circumstance that I can think of should you be involved in HR of Ford. Did you have to buy the engineer out, or just pay for the new ones moving expenses etc.?
Our 2015 2.0 Turbo motor ‘went’ a few months ago just past warranty. Only 5 years old. We bought new so this would not happen! Seriously? Then the dealership offered us a used motor with 80,000 km for replacement or $7,000. Trade in on a 5 year old car!! We paid for a new motor from a reputable private garage, $6,000.00 (taxes and labor included). Bye bye Ford! We did test drive the 2020 Ford Escape ( we were in shock mode and we were in the mood for a laugh) and it had a vibration in the back end. We are done. It’s gone. Anything is better than this crap.
It sounds as if your dealership is run by a bunch of thieves! If you look at “Crate Engines” you’ll find many really good shops, offer 2.0 rebuilds (done right), for less than $2500-top shelf builders. $3500 to pull and replace etc., may be a touch high, but maybe not. I glad you didn’t let the scum rip you off. Dealerships sell cars OVER MSRP, every day. One way, they give you $7000.00 trade on a car worth a lot more, let’s say $10,000 is the real value. They trade with you against sticker price, at $7000, they just sold it for $3000 over sticker! I wish more people would educate themselves. Car sales people, move from dealership to dealership, brand to brand. Last time you saw “Joe” was when he was selling GMCs, but now he is selling Fords, regardless of what he is selling, the brand that he is selling now, “Is the best, and I can get you a great deal…blah, blah, blah”, not the most honest group of folks you’ll ever meet. It seems most dealerships are always hiring new salespeople, always, few have a small group of actual experts on the brand the represent, and t have been with the same dealership for many years..sad. Most “Service departments” actually make more money for the dealership’s owners than the new/used car sales departments. If more people were like you, maybe the dealerships would pull their heads out of it.
Yes , I’m on my 3rd engine in my ecoboost mustang and I’m so sick of the reliability I refuse to drive it now due to another cly 2 coolant leak I’ve been a ford mustang owner sense I was 16 I’m now 40 and after this experience I will never buy a ford again
My 2013 escape has “eaten” coolant since the day I bought it brand new. Never even told the dealership about because I knew they wouldn’t do anything out it anyway. My next vehicle purchase will NOT be a Ford product. It’s a shame a company won’t stand behind their products anymore!
I feel your pain. Almost makes you wonder if someone is purposely destroying the company.
Never had any problems with my 2015 Ford Escape until two weeks ago. I noticed that the heat was not working while idling. Discovered my coolant level was low. Replaced the coolant. Thought all was well until I checked my levels again and realized all of the coolant was nearly gone again. Brought it to a mechanic to check for leaks. No external leaks found. My engine is burning coolant. Finally finished paying it off and now I have to find a new car during a pandemic where I am struggling financially. Such a disaster. Never buying a Ford again.
I have a 2015 Ford Escape bought in Canada. Around 60,000km (36,000 miles) the engine experienced misfires in cylinder No. 2. A mechanic replaced the spark plug, and the misfire issue went away–for a short while. Then it returned. So I replaced the ignition coil for that cylinder. Problem went away–for a while. Misfire came back, as diagnosed by my Blue Driver OBDII port scanner and some rough startups. Finally the coolant all spewed out the exhaust. It turns out that the 1.6L cylinder block was cracked. Ford replaced the engine with a long block under the powertrain warranty. That was about 10,000km ago, and when I had my transmission fluid and filter changed today, the mechanic said he detected an oil leak near the cylinder head. That does not bode well. Ford has serious design and engineering issues with these Ecoboost engines. Many people have had to pay out of their own pocket for new engines after their warranties ran out. Afterwards, my car started vibrating like hell at idle–turns out it was a defective transmission flywheel–perhaps damaged when the new engine was installed. Ford should buy back all of these vehicles and sell them to the Chinese. I will never, ever buy another American car. Every time I think the American car makers have learned their lesson about quality control issues, they prove that they haven’t. Next car will be a Toyota. Look around in the parking lots–you hardly see any Fords these days. I wish I had never given them another chance after that crappy Mustang II.
I currently own a 2017 Ford Edge with close to 65,000 now at Ford garage had coolant issue wa told it needs a new 2.0 liter long block. Called Ford Corp was told they will not cover it it’s out of warranty even though no fault of my own. Pretty bad when engine don’t outlast the tires! Still owe over 12,000 and left with the decision to “fix or junk”. From what I’ve read becoming a common issue and cost an average of 9,000 to fix. Ford offered no discount on anything never own another Ford 😔
What about the powertrain warranty? It’s supposed to be good for 100,000 miles or 5 years, whatever comes first. If Ford won’t cover a cracked block under the powertrain warranty–and that’s what is causing your issues–then you should contact an attorney
Don’t accept no for an answer!
P.S. Tell Scotty Kilmer on Youtube, too!
I was under the impression ford’s powertrain warranty (new car) was 5 year/60,000 (which ever comes first). Where are you getting the 100,000 for NEW CAR WARRANTY??? I would not tell someone to spend money on an attorney unless I actually knew what I was talking about. Can you post the actually web page, ford page, ford homepage that states the 100,000 mile thing on a NEW CAR?
I thought I would spend 10 seconds and post the actual, ford warranty for the 2017 Fusion in question:::::::
2017 Ford Fusion Warranty
8 Trims Available Change Make / Model
Warranty
Basic warranty:36 months/36,000miles
Corrosion perforation warranty:60 months/ unlimited distance
Powertrain warranty:60 months/60,000miles
Roadside assistance coverage:60 months/60,000miles
Yes, I am in Canada where the powertrain warranty extends to 100,000km, or 60,000 miles, or five years–whichever comes first.
So, yes, it would technically be out of the powertrain warranty. HOWEVER, Ford has had a BUNCH of engine block failures in the Ecoboost line. A factory in the UK was turning out faulty engine blocks by the boatload–heads rolled when Ford found out about it.
SO this was a MAJOR defect, and Ford SHOULD have extended the powertrain warranty. In fact, there should have been a recall.
So, yes, consulting an attorney would still be a viable option. An even better option would be consulting an attorney who specializes in class action lawsuits. Mark my word, there WILL be a class action lawsuit about these faulty engines. it’s not the customers’ fault that so many engines were made with faulty castings. The engine blocks have cracks which widen over time, causing coolant to leak into the cylinders–and ultimately blowing ALL the coolant out the tailpipe.
Ford should have corrected this problem a long time ago. Instead, it shifted the burden to its customers–none of whom are going to buy a Ford again after this experience.
I purchased 2017 Escape 2.0L Ecoboost from private party. Took it to AV FORD DEALERSHIP in CALIFORNIA had service department check it out for me because i was feeling a little tug. They tell me i need a NEW ENGINE because coolant got in cylinder. I end up agreeing to it $6000
2 weeks later they call me back tell me when they took it on a test run it started to vibrate and shutter, whatever the heck that means, and said I need a NEW TRANSMISSION! I said heck no! Your Technician messed up when he installed the engine because my Escape was running very strong and smooth except for that little tug i was feeling. My car has been sitting at dealership since September 24, 2020. The Dealership Owner wants to make some sort of deal with me by offering me a DISCOUNT PRICE on the TRANSMISSION.
SURE PAL!!!!! I THINK I NEED A LAWYER🤔
God Bless you, you’ve run into to two bandits, ford for selling the known piece of crap to start with, and the dealership, they’re trying to get a little deeper into your pocket. I’d be surprised if they don’t suddenly offer you a one time “deal” on a demo, or some other piece of crap, “to try to make things right, and keep your as a customer- blah, blah, blah”. Don’t fall for it! Remember, most car sales people go from one dealership to another (few appear to hold down a job for more than few years), what ever brand they are selling now, is the” best” brand, and they can get you a “great” deal…. Service depts are the same way, they need to log some hours, and sell some transmissions. Most service depts make more money for the dealership than new car sales. These guys a slick, I’d be surprised if a number of these “slick operators” aren’t reading and commenting on this board.
Wow. Nancy what a horror story. What’s the deal Ford? You have morons designing your engines? It’s too bad. Ford cleaned up there act in the late 00’s into the mid 2010’s. It’s starting to sound like they’re going back to their bad habits.
Very shortly after the Ford dealer in Canada replaced my engine with a new long block engine fresh from the factory, my car started making a heck of a noise under the hood. It sounded like someone was shaking a bunch of nuts and bolts around in a baking pan. I took it back and the dealer said it was a bad flywheel. They replaced it under the powertrain warranty. I have a mechanic friend who told me it was quite likely that they damaged the flywheel when disassembling the transmission from the engine. My guess is that’s what happened to your car–or even worse. Ford should have recalled ALL of the Ecoboost engines and replaced them. The problem with these engines is that they are CAST aluminum, and they CAST the blocks with iron sleeves in place for the pistons to move up and down in (steel pistons would wear out an aluminum cylinder in short order). If everything doesn’t go exactly right, you get problems with the sleeves or the engine block itself. In the case of the Ecoboost engines, thousands failed because of cracks in the blocks. The cracks admitted coolant into the cylinders, which registered as misfires in the car’s computer (get a Blue Driver for your OBD2 port and you can download these codes). Eventually, the cracks widen to the point that your antifreeze will blow out the exhaust–leaving you without any coolant in the engine whatsoever. These engines operate at much higher pressures than their predecessors, and the pressures put more strain on the engine. These engines were made to achieve a good fuel economy score for the Ecoboost engine line–NOT to last a long time. As long as they last past the warranty period, Ford doesn’t care. We know that Honda had some bad transmissions, and they fixed those under a “secret” recall problem (you’d take your car in, and if you mentioned transmission problems, you had spoken the right “code words” and your car got fixed for free). Ford has screwed over thousands of customers because of these engine problems. The cars should have been recalled; if not that, then the powertrain warranties should have been extended to 150,000 miles. Ford also installs two-piece lug nuts on the wheels which are GUARANTEED to “swell” and be unremovable when you need to change a tire on the side of the road (hint: buy 20 McGard triple-chrome-plated lug nuts and replace the two-piece lug nuts). Anyway, I am super disappointed in Ford. This is all begging for a class action lawsuit. An engine should last beyond 36,000 – 70,000 miles. Who would knowingly buy a car if they knew the engine or transmission would fail before 70,000 miles? Nobody, that’s who! Ford is digging its own grave with these engine problems. And sooner or later a class action lawsuit will hit–and Ford sales will drop even further.
I just paid 48000.00 to repair my 2014 Fusion 1.5L eccoboost. BTW I had 58,000 miles Please include me in the class action . I had what they called a coolant intrusion. It leaked into the engine and I ended up having to replace small block. The crazy thing about about all of this is that its recorded as most of the coolant problems are for the Escape. Well the same engine is in the Fusion!
I am not going to buy another ford.
$48,000.00?????? Why???? You could have purchased a really good, New Car, for much less! Stay away for snow mobile engines-3cylinder mills belong on motorcycles and snow mobiles, ecobooms are mfg by ford for thier [ford’s] version of bic lighters-disposable.
I don’t blame you. The Ecoboost engines have been a disaster Mine had a cracked block, with coolant intruding into cylinder #2 before all of it blew out my exhaust. My engine was replaced under the powertrain warranty. But I’m done with Fords, too.
For those interested in the class action law suit, here is a thumbnail, along with the law firm’s name:
According to the Ford EcoBoost class action lawsuit, the engines have inadequate seals on the cylinder heads and grooves where the cylinder heads attach to the engine blocks. Coolant allegedly enters through the grooves where it pools and degrades the gasket seals and causes coolant to leak into the cylinders.
The Ford EcoBoost class action lawsuit was filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of Delaware: Reed, et al., v. Ford Motor Company.
The plaintiffs are represented by Berger Montague PC, and Capstone Law APC.
Where is the law-firm located and which attorney is handling this?
Denny J
Does anyone have any updates on the case?
I am considering buying a 2020 Ford Fusion with 1.5L ecoboost engine. Do you know of any problems with this type of engine. I don’t want to purchase something that would put my family in danger or be a money pit later.
Yes. The engine is a disaster. It runs at much higher pressures than previous engines, it has direct gas injection so that the intake valves do not get “washed” by the gasoline (and build up tons of carbon as a result), and the Ecoboost engines have a VERY troubled history. Ford has required many of its customers to shell out money from their own pockets for engines that failed just out of warranty. A car’s engine should last at least 100,000 miles–many of these Ecoboost engines failed between 36,000 and 70,000 miles. There have been many cracked blocks, which has resulted in coolant entering the cylinders and causing misfires–until the coolant gets completely blown out the exhaust pipes. I suggest you buy a Toyota instead.
OH my…… I added too many zeros. $4,800.00
I got it; however, I wouldn’t be surprised if your dealer had a shot at charging you an extra zero, they would have!
The Ecoboost engines are a disaster and Ford is going to lose hundreds of thousands of customers over them. My 1.6L Ecoboost in a 2015 Ford Escape blew within the powertrain warranty–otherwise I would have been looking at $12,000 for a new engine. This is Ford’s worst engineering disaster after the Ford Pinto! These engines were designed with the sole purpose of boosting Ford’s Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) figures–Ford didn’t care if they blew up just outside of warranty. Ford should be required to offer all Ecoboost engine owners an extended powertrain warranty to at least 100,000 miles. I’m praying my new engine won’t blow for another few years–but if it does, I’m junking the car. And I will buy a Toyota next time!
It is a well known Fact, forced induction mills do not last as long as NA. In other words, put a “power adder” on any given NA mill, turbocharger/super charger/ NO2 etc. the live expectancy drops. The drop is NOT linear. The old ford engines, lasted “forever”, and were “easy” to fix when they needed it, the new ecobooms have not been created with the idea of building them “ford tough”. As ford has moved from an American auto maker, to a multinational builder, their reputation for quality- in the American market, isn’t as important to them as it once was. SAD
I’ve owned 9 Fords. My 2016 Ford Edge needs a “longblock” to the tune of 7-9k depending on the dealer. The dealer we bought it from has zero empathy for us here since we are out of warranty and even had the balls to say that this is why so many people are buying extended warranties! Any car built these days should at least make it to 100k. I got rid of my money pit 2009 F350 Powerstroke two years ago and now this. Sadly, I really am done with Ford. Where do we sign up for this lawsuit. My trade in value is 11k and I cannot even see spending 9k on a car that is only worth 11k running.
I feel yoyur pain. Luckily, the engine on our car went out before the powertrain warranty expired. That was around 36,000 miles. Ford built these very light, high-pressure engines to meet the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards set by the government. These engines were made to achieve that purpose–not to last. What’s worse is that a big batch of engines from the Ford UK plant had cracks in the engine block castings. These cracks start to widen and deepen some 30,000 – 70,000 miles later. The cracks allow coolant to seep into the cylinders. If you use a scan tool, you will note codes for things like “Misfire in Cylinder No. 2”. Your initial thoughts are likely a bad spark plug or a bad coil wire. Nope–much worse than that. You’ll notice your engine running rough on startup–due to the coolant leaking into a cylinder–and you’ll smell antifreeze being blown out the tailpipe. Eventually the crack will widen to the point that–poof!–ALL of your radiator coolant just got blown out the tailpipe! If you have a 2015 or later car, there will be dash lights and warnings going off. If you’re lucky, you can refill the radiator with water and pray that you make it to the Ford dealer–as I did. It took Ford about four weeks to get a new engine for me and to install it–my dealer apparently damaged the transmission flywheel when they put in the new engine–so they had to replace that under warranty, too. I’m up in Canada and cannot join any US-based class-action lawsuit, and I’m not too upset right now, as there’s a new engine in our Ford Escape. However, if this engine blows, we’ll just junk the car. I try to reassure myself that not ALL the Ecoboost engines had cracks in the engines–and I HOPE that this engine lasts another four or five years. But I, too, am done with Fords. Toyotas don’t have this problem. Foreign cars are made to last–American cars are made to sell. That’s why you see fewer and fewer America cars in parking lots–American consumers are largely wising up to Detroit’s lack of commitment to quality.
I have a 2016 fusion with the 2.0 Ecoboost. I bought an extended warranty to 75k. My engine crack at 76k miles and they told me that I was out of warranty and now out over 10k dollars to get it fixed. The engine and now the turbo went bad. Kudos to the dealership they are going to eat the cost of fixing my trans lines because the coolant leaked into there also. The only reason for that is they are going to loose a customer. For a guy that was a loyal Ford buyer for not only personal but for my business too. I have a fleet of F350’s with plows on them. The only thing I have to say is bye bye Ford Hello Silverado.
You just have to ask yourself why Ford would foist such engines upon the public. They have to know that engines that won’t go 80,000 miles are going to turn once-loyal customers against them. Now here is someone who makes fleet buying decisions–so Ford’s going to lose a big chunk of business right there. Ford knows how to build good, durable, economical and long-lasting engines. They need to compensate their customers for this faulty design/bad engineering if they don’t want to go the way of Studebaker and Packard. If they don’t, they will.
Where do I begin with the nightmare of our 2013 escape we had. We had saved up to finally be able to get my wife something new to drive. It started losing power so Ford told us we needed a new turbo and just out of its warranty. I paid around $3000 to have it replaced. Take it home and problem still exists. Take it back and it’s a coolant problem. Ford said the motor had to be replaced and luckily they replaced it. This was days after they was wrong about the turbo and refused a refund. So basically they got a brand new turbo back for nothing. Shortly after the transmission went out so I had that fixed at my cost. Long story short the motor and trans starts messing up again about 30k miles later and Ford wants paid again for fixing it. At this point I’m already over 10k in repairs so I call the bank and explain to them why I refuse to pay another penny on the car. Ford didn’t care for a second I’d have nearly 20k in repairs on a vehicle they were very aware was a lemon. Total nightmare
Please make a complaint with NHTSA.GOV.
Did you complain to NHTSA.gov?
Please make a complaint to NHTSA.GOV
I own a 2018 Ford Escape with 11700 miles. This is our new car and we depend on it for our transportation needs.
Now I worry about my investment because of the coolant leak and engine failure problem.
Ford Motor Company should be held responsible for this product defect and either buy back these vehicles or extend the power train warranty out to 100000 miles.
It’s the luck of the draw as to whether or not your Escape has one of the faulty engines. Here’s what I would do in the meantime:
1. Get a scanner tool for your OBDII port. I recommend the Blue Driver. It has an app that works with your smartphone. Run scans regularly. At the FIRST sign of a misfire in any cylinder, take it to the dealer. It’s most likely NOT a bad coil or a bad sparkplug, but coolant leaking into a cylinder. If your engine is going to fail, you don’t want to be outside the power train warranty when that happens.
2. DRIVE your car to put at least 12,000 miles a year or more on it. If there’s going to be a failure, you want to “accelerate” that failure to occur within the powertrain warranty: 60,000 miles or 5 years, whichever comes first. Do some long trips in it.
3. Unrelated to engine block cracks–run PURE synthetic oil in your car, and change it every 4,000 to 5,000 miles. Mobil 1 is the best. It will help your engine last longer–as long as it didn’t come from the factory with a cracked block or other major engine defect.
4. If you still can, purchase an extended warranty–but check the reviews, as some of the companies offering these don’t pay out.
Good luck!
PS Replace those two-piece lug nuts with McGard triple-chrome-plated steel lug nuts–otherwise they will “swell” and you won’t be able to get them off to change a flat tire!
For me, a vehicle that is not Very Dependable, is a piece of (*&*!!!! No matter how good it looks, or how many coats of wax it wears, if it is not dependable, I do not want it. Ford should be ashamed of this type of problem, and should do what it takes to fix it, period. This becomes part of their track record, if one were to buy a different Ford-what would make you think it will be different? The problem may be different, but how they fix/solve/cure problems won’t change. Until ford fixes this problem, and fixes like a stand-up company, no right thinking person is going to believe their future “hype”. What a shame an old American company is/has turned into a multi-national scam machine.
I have a 2014 Escape with the 2.0 EcoBoost engine. I too have a coolant leak in the #2 and #3 cylinders. The Ford Service center recommended a new engine at the cost of around $8,000. I do not have the funds to paid for this major type of repair bill. Why hasn’t Ford recalled this engine?
Ford hasn’t recalled the engine because they want the drivers to pay for the new engine out of warranty. They will not recall the engines unless they are forced to by NHTSA but this isn’t a clear safety issue, just a total engine failure headache for consumers. Ford doesn’t care at all if they have repeat customers and they are basically a Truck manufacturer at this point. Plus, they have fleet buyers (rental car companies) buying their crappy vehicles and then the repairs are mostly borne by the person who buys the rental car when they sell it after 2 years.
My 2017 Escape has already had the short block replace and the torque converter replaced 2 weeks later. Luckily I purchased extended warranty, so teh repairs have been made with only a $100 deductible each time. 72,000 miles.
Ford should extend the warranties on ALL Ecoboost engines to at least 100,000 miles. I know that I will never buy another Ford.
I agree 100%, my family and I should not have to worry about the reliability of our new ford with 12000 miles.
I spoke with someone at Ford March 20, 2021 about this Ford vehicle I financed less than three months ago and for some reason my car wouldn’t start. I ran a diagnostic and had numerous codes P0300, P0301, P0302, P0303, P0304, P0030, C0014, P0047, P0141, and a few others. I looked for loose wires, checked fuses, plugs etc. I noticed two cracked spark plugs, so I replaced all of them. After that the car started so I thought it was fixed. Closed the hood turned the car to the off position, then tried to start it again. It did not start. So I checked all the fluids and saw the antifreeze disappeared, that I had just previously filled. I looked for any visible leaks, puddles, and checked for wet carpet and found nothing. I went and bought another two large jugs of antifreeze, put one of them into the radiator it was so fast that I watched it all disappear before my eyes. I could not figure it out, but I got the car started and still continued to get massive amount of these error codes, white smoke, rough sound, etc. Then I searched more and found it sounded like blown head gasket, I checked and the oil had a milky tint. This I then found a TSB for my vehicle, Ford said they needed to check if my local Ford dealership had the parts to get my car in or if they needed to order the parts. I was supposed to get a call back but have not heard anything. I used leak fix to attempt to fix it, seemed to have stopped the leak for now and cleared the codes but my dash check engine light keeps flashing so I didn’t want to cause further damage. The TBS number I found was NHTSA ID Number: 10174400, my car is a 2015 Ford Fusion EcoBoost 1.5L, VIN Number# 3FA6P0HD2FR309495, and my local Ford is in Heath, Ohio 43056 at Mathews Ford. Mathews told me I more than likely will be responsible for the cost, because my car model and year isn’t among any mentioned. Also stated that Ford wouldn’t cover charges due to the miles as this is a natural issue that can happen. I just financed this car with over 96,000 on date of purchase, my warranty had four days left at time I found the problem, but would have been ended do to miles I believe. My local dealer said it will be over a week before they could run diagnostic on it. I asked about any option for rental/loaner while it there for repairs and was instantly told no we don’t have any loaner cars or anything you can rent. So I have no transportation, a $350 car payment while this sits in their shop, insurance of $160, cost for gas 200 miles a week to get a ride to and from work from a friend or stranger $60 at least. Not to forget a diagnostic expecting $100 bill on an issue they are well aware of whats wrong with my car, as this is exact as the other complaints, I have screenshots of my diagnostic codes and my car has white smoke coming from the tailpipe. I am guessing another bill of over $1000 for repairs to correct the defect that Ford assumes in some cars, but hasn’t took responsibility for all. I am only 20 years old, I don’t know how I can afford any of this and provide to support myself. I don’t know what to do, I am about to lose everything I have been working to build for my future.
Justin sorry to hear about your troubles. We have the exact same model with just under 71k on it. First warning was a coolant overtemp warning while driving that lasted just a few seconds about 2 months ago. It was a little low on coolant and didn’t get the same warning for a couple weeks after topping off. We did not notice white smoke, abnormal running, or fluids under the car at this point. After topping off a second time did some searching and found that the block crack is a common problem just after the warranty runs out of course at 60K+ miles. Was going to try some stop leak but then the car would not start the next morning. Replaced the spark plugs and got it started and driven to a local mechanic. By that time the coolant was disappearing faster and some white smoke was seen in the exhaust. They confirmed antifreeze was getting in cylinder #4, so engine would have to be removed and taken apart before determining if it was a head gasket or block crack, so cost would be $2 to 8k based on what I have seen reported. Then I found this lawsuit. So we have bought another car (Nissan) now wondering what to do with this car sitting in our garage. Wait for resolution? Go ahead and get it to a dealer and see what they can offer? Frustrating to have a car that is essentially worthless as we make the last few payments on it.
How did you join the class action lawsuits? I’ve been looking. My 2016 escape at 65 thousand miles lost it’s #4 cylinder to coolant leaking in. This is not ok!!!
The Ford dealership would actually hold it against you that one of THEIR products failed, and they wouldn’t offer you squat for it. And they’d try to sell you another vehicle with one of those problem-prone Ecoboost engines.
Don’t get rid of it, though, or you’ll be out in the cold when Ford loses the class-action lawsuit.
Some radiator Stop Leak might make it drivable for a few hundred miles–I don’t know.
I do know that Ford should be held accountable for this engineering disaster.
Ford will most likely say the warranty is voided if you use any Stop Leak even if they are forced to extend the warranties from the class action. I think it is doubtful they will recall all of these engines so the lawsuit resolution will probably be a warranty extension.
I’m sorry you are going through this.
What a shame that Ford is fully aware of the problem but refuses to make good. I paid 5,000.00 to get my 2014 fusion eccoboost 1.5 L with only 58,000 miles back on the road. Replaced small block. Make a complaint to the
Why is the 2.0 eco boost engines in the Lincoln’s not part of this class action law suit?
See here:
The complaint alleges that certain vehicles equipped with 1.5L, 1.6L, or 2.0L Ford EcoBoost engines are affected by the defect, including:
• 2013-2019 Ford Escapes
• 2013-2019 Ford Fusions
• 2015-2018 Ford Edges
• 2017-2019 Lincoln MKC
• 2017-2019 Lincoln MKZ
It seems ridiculous that the same engine in the Ford Escape, Edge, and Fusion that are also in the 2013-2016 Lincoln MKZ and MKC are not covered? What happens to all those Lincoln owners with this engine in their cars? Why are they not covered?
Thanks for the help and clarification.
I made a complaint to NHTSA. The service manager told me to it. I am hoping everyone makes a report. Maybe a recall will happen.
I have a 2018 Ford Escape with a 1.5 Ecoboost Engine which I purchased last year in September and I was told Tuesday by a Ford dealership that I need a Engine it has been serviced as usual with frequent oil changes and it still went bad and it runs hot every so often. Any suggestions or help would be appreciated.
Warranty???
Recall??
Hopefully you are still within the 60,000-mile/5-year powertrain warranty. If so, your engine should be replaced without ANY cost to you!
Whelp, I just became a victim to this. 2016 Fusion and took it in 3rd time in 6 months for check engine light. Came out this side with $9000 short block replacement quote. Just hit 100,000mi.
I’ll be following this.
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I just became victim to this as well Car started leaking coolant and now when taken to several mechanics they told me I need new motor due to coolant leaking into block. I have 2016 Ford Fusion where do
You file the complaint ?
Just found out Friday that I need a new engine in my 1.6l Escape. $7700 with parts and labor!
I only had 79000 on this engine! Had a 4.6l Mustang that had 165,000 when I traded it in for this TURD. Should have kept the Mustang!
Does anyone know how to join one of the class action suits?
Ford’s recall-prone 1.6-liter EcoBoost engine is once again causing problems for Dearborn, with almost 90,000 Escape and Fusion models equipped with the engine subject to the latest voluntary recall. Escapes equipped with the 1.6-liter EcoBoost have already been subject to three recalls since its introduction, including for fuel leaks and engine fires.
Replacing the known turd with a new turd would be throwing $7,700 down the toilet! Parts and labor, does that include Tax? If you pay attention to crate engines, most good remanufacturers offer a warranty (often better than factory), but you’ll notice they aren’t building the 1.6, why? They don’t want to destroy their good reputation! I hope you are able to join a class action and get some satisfaction ($$$$), don’t hold your breath, at best it’ll take years.
I’m looking too. But did you at least contact the NTSB and file a complaint? My 2016 escape lost it’s engine at 65 thousand. I contacted Ford Corp and they are covering part of the cost, but it shouldn’t have happened and it’s little comfort replacing a flawed product with a flawed product. I feel like I’m throwing good money after bad.
Just got a new Turbo engine in my 2014 Ford Escape a week and a half ago. Had about 125,000 miles on it. Replaced Transmission a year ago as well. I had the Ecoboost 1.6L
On Saturday April 17th my car started smoking real bad from the exhaust on the highway took the next exit with my flashers on to pull over and noticed my breaks went out put the car in park turned it off but the emergency break on and it wouldn’t stop. I got to do the turn around and pull into a spot at a gas station on a curb to make the car stop. Got my 8 year old child in tears at this point and myself out of the car and the car burst into flames,
The single most important thing is, you and that child are okay, God Bless You. I hope others read your post/hear what happened to you, and STOP buying ford 4 bangers-not only are they Bic lighters, but-look at what almost happened to Chelsea Allen!!!!
I was a ford man and was from my very first car a 1959 ford at the age of 16. I purchased a 1969 torino in 1972, a new mustang in 1973, new mercury in 1976 a number of used fords throughout the years. In 1989 a new mustang ,another new mustang in 1990 and encouraged family members to buy fords. I own 4 fords right now. I purchased the problem in 2015, a 2016 fusion which I payed off early only to start having problems to the tune of $8000 dollars. The 2.0 engine has to be replaced. It don’t make any sense to replace a problem with a problem. I got over over 300 thousand on the 90 mustang but the end has come with ford for me.
At least part of the issue is that automakers are being forced to increase the mpg of their fleet, turbos get you there at the expense of reliability. Like you, I have been a Ford person for years and had great luck with their 302 engine over the years. Yes, this is a crazy failure, not normal and Ford should step up but they likely are going to do everything they can to avoid doing anything to compensate folks like yourself (and possibly me at a later date). I have the 2017 Escape 2.0 which has the same twin scroll turbo that you have.
You are right regarding the “forced increase in mpg”; however, ford is Not the only auto mfg, many others use turbos, and are not suffering the ford 4 banger problem. This is a ford problem-and ford should fix it…screwing your customers is never the answer.
Yes, we all agree Ford should “fix” it, however they have a team of lawyers arguing they should not have to fix anything out of warranty and they have honored all warranty claims. We will see, I am guessing the Ford team of lawyers will win however, the case is now being argued in the State of California (Lund vs. Ford). The Ford lawyers have already submitted arguments to dismiss the case since they argue they have made no false claims about engine reliability for these Ecoboosts and have honored all warranty claims (plantiffs are all out of warranty issues). Screwing their customers is their answer, sorry.
Some times false advertising is akin to an implied warranty, such as, Longest lasting….”. Once the problem was evident, by the number of warranty claims, the continued sale can only be considered malfeasance on ford’s part. I do agree with one part of fords argument, now that the crap they are building (four banger ecobooms) is so well known, those buying one knew or should have known in advance they were buying a Bic lighter. Those that were lead to believe ford was producing a “wonder engine”, turbo charged power house, with huge mpg, and “longest lasting”, were lead down a rosy path, to be sure. I hope ford is required to replace each and everyone of the crap ecobooms, with an engine that is in fact long lasting, we shall see.
I have a 2016 ford escape and at about 65 thousand miles (seems to be the magical number) the check engine light came on and it started over heating. I took it in and the engine is shot, coolant leaked in and ruined my number 4 cylinder. After reading that Ford knew about the problem years ago and continued to produce the cars without making changes or covering the costs when it goes shortly after warranty. I’m so disappointed. I will never buy a ford again and that really upsets me. I like Ford, I like buying american. I was thinking the bronco next, but they obviously don’t care about their customers or producing a quality product. I’m not sure what I am buying but it is not a Ford. I’m just so disappointed.
Ford is about to unleash the new bronco-it’ll come with a ford 4 banger! When will the ecoboom train stop? I wonder, who is buying these things? A little research at this point in time could go a long way in saving people time/money/ and keep their family safe….
Yes–when you knowingly and deliberately foist a defective engine upon millions of your customers, you are going to lose millions of customers as a result. I decided to give an American automaker a second chance after driving European cars for over 20 years. Big mistake. The American automakers still have not learned their lesson. They make cars to sell–while the Europeans and Japanese make cars to last. It’s that simple.
When ford announced they were getting out of the US car market (except mustang), trucks and SUVs were their future….I guess fixing car problems became a none starter. the new Bronco
Sport (BS), with its 3 cylinder snowmobile engine, or the “bic lighter, 4 cyl” is alive and well…what they hell is going on with the leadership???
I have 15 ford fusion 1.5L I’ve replaced the engine once and now my car in down again for the same issue.
My mother has purchased a 2019 Ford Escape, loved the car and within 2 months of purchasing the vehicle, cracked block. Warranty will not pay and the dealership says not responsible. When we speak to outside sources we are being told Ford knows the issues these motors are having but they are not doing anything. My mother is 75 years old, living on SS and is doing good to pay for a car monthly and now it needs a $8,000 motor put in. What do people do in situations like this?
Your mom needs to join the class action lawsuit that was begun in Delaware. Ford has been seriously shafting its customers with this Ecoboost engine issue. I read somewhere that some 90,000 vehicles are affected. I was lucky to get a new engine under the power train warranty. Apparently that applies only to original purchasers.
Ford needs a lawsuit to wake them up. Tell her to not junk the vehicle–she will probably need to return ownership to get any satisfaction out of the lawsuit.
Good luck to you both.
I have had my ‘16 f150 2.7 Ecoboost for just over a year. Had 72k km on it. I had just past 35k on my own on it. Low oil light came on. Fixed it self. Two days later it’s comes on again. But stalls out. Could. Not get it started again. And makes the worst noise if you do get it to run.
I phoned local dealerships 3 in total.
Q1) what are the known issues with low oil pressure? Or have you heard of any?
A1) what? Issues? None that I have heard of. And I’ve owed 4-or 5 even my present 2021 is great.
Q2). No question!!! I can’t believe this. All three dealerships told me the same thing. I have owned nothing but fords. Since I could drive. If and when I get this going it’s my last Ford. Me my wife my siblings her siblings are going to spread the word. Not only did they lie. They made me feel like it’s all my doing. And it’s has nothing to do with the truck. And definitely does not have any defects that might cause my problem or any other problem that ends in engine failure. Trying to get me to buy one. And even if it was. He said. The 5 year power train warranty is over. So any replacement is on me out of my pocket.
Heard there is a lawsuit being brought against them for 2010 to present cause so many issues and they haven’t fixed or stopped them. But hey keep pumping out there. Get your team to get them out the door. In to our houses. My advice. Sell it kill it give it back. Do what you got to might not happen now or tomorrow but it will get you. And that shiny Ford team. Won’t be there for ya. When it’s crunch time. Think it’s time to upgrade Chrysler here I come.
Your mom needs to join the class action lawsuit that was begun in Delaware. Ford has been seriously shafting its customers with this Ecoboost engine issue. I read somewhere that some 90,000 vehicles are affected. I was lucky to get a new engine under the power train warranty. Apparently that applies only to original purchasers.
Ford needs a lawsuit to wake them up. Tell her to not junk the vehicle–she will probably need to return ownership to get any satisfaction out of the lawsuit.
Good luck to you both.
My information is a little different than yours. The class action lawsuit is now being heard in California “Patricia Lund vs. Ford Motor Company”. You do not have to “join” the lawsuit, IF the plaintiffs win you will be part of the settlement if you are owners of one of the vehicles in the lawsuit. From carscomplaints.com: “March 28, 2021 — A Ford class action lawsuit alleges EcoBoost engine problems exist in 2013-2019 Ford Escape, 2015-2019 Ford Edge, 2017-2019 Lincoln MKC and 2017-2019 Lincoln MKZ vehicles. The alleged Ford EcoBoost engine issues allegedly occur in 1.5L, 1.6L and 2.0L vehicles which cause engine coolant to leak into the cylinders.” There are over 2 million vehicles that would be under the settlement. The problem is, the plaintiffs may not get anything. Ford lawyers have already argued to dismiss the case saying they have honored all warranty repairs for this issue and never implied they would cover this failure out of warranty. They are not going to replace all engines, they are going to fight this with all they have and may not be required to do anything different. Some are hoping for an extended warranty and covering those that failed in that extended warranty period for past failures, that just does not seem likely to me. We will see what the California judge has to say.
“California judge”….these woke judges are at odds with most of those that study the law-they just make it up as they go. The fact that you don’t need to join the lawsuit, does not mean, you can’t bring your own suit, or for that matter, join a suit in another state. One aspect of this situation is, millions of ford owners-millions-will be purchasing vehicles in the future, my guess is, ford will not be on their shopping list. Fighting with all their lawyers in CA, will not change the fact they have lost a huge number of current and future customers. As you sow, so shall you reap.
I don’t know if the car magazines have covered this subject, or how much attention it has been given in the general media. The story should be trumpeted to the skies. Engines failing before 70,000 or 80,000 miles is a disgrace. Mine failed at around 36,000 miles–thankfully I was still within the power train warranty. Can you believe that my Canadian ford dealer did not offer me a loaner until I complained to Ford Canada? And they kept my car in the shop for at least a month! Ford should offer a 10-year power train warranty in order to compensate for this design and engineering debacle. If Ford continues to hunker down behind its lawyers, it can forget me as a future customer. I hope that word really gets around–so that you will find cobwebs on Ford cars sitting in the lots at the dealerships! To think I had a Saab 900 that went 300,000 miles with no engine breakdowns!
I agree with your post! Not only is ford continuing to stuff the 4 bangers in new vehicles, but they are offering them on new models such as the bronco sport (BS), and the bronco (if they ever actually deliver one). Ford has also continued to use the chinese transmissions etc.. I know if taken care of, Toyotas will go 250,000 miles (easily), built ford tough? More like, you bought a ford-tough luck.
I have a 2018 Escape that we still owe $17,000 on and just got done putting $6300 into a new short block for it. I am furious and can’t believe that an “American” company is doing this to American citizens (or anyone for that matter) that HAVE BEEN dedicated customers. If I don’t get some sort of reimbursement they will certainly lose me as a customer and anyone else I can take with me!!
The Ford execs don’t care. They have your money, they got their bonuses, and they’ll leave the company as rich son-of-a-guns. The CEO knows about this problem, and the board knows about this problem, but none of them are going to do anything about it, because they will all leave the company with their pockets stuffed full of money.
James, I think you’ve hit the nail on the head! Your short post has summed up what’s “not happening and why”, as well as any could.
I have a 2018 Ford Focus bought it brand new and just over 60 thousand miles the rack and pinion had to be replaced then just a little over a month later at 66 thousand miles it needs an engine replacement of course the PT warranty is up and it looks like I’m going to have to pay for a new engine. The bad part is I still am making payments on it and whats going to happen next. Will never own another Ford
Nancy, go to small claims court and sue for the cost of a new engine. Get a lawyer. Ford might possibly settle up just to avoid the bad publicity.
My 2016 has the engine issue. Sitting in driveway currently not running. Waiting on a recall or lottery winning! Lol
Small turbo engines are simply working too hard for the vehicles they are installed in. I guess you can thank the EPA for raising the bar so high that these small turbo’s were the only answer in order to meet those regulations. The owner of these over worked engines are paying the price. Forced air is great at making the most power per liter of engine. But it also means more heat, stress, and questions about longevity of these engines. No doubt the expectation of cooling issues, head gasket and head related issues would certainly happen. Some of this has been amplified because of extended oil drain intervals, minimal cooling capacity specs, and engines running at higher temps. We should not be surprised these failures are happening. It should have been predicted.
JohnIL, The points you make are certainly valid..to a point. The aspect you left out is the appallingly bad design of the Ecoboost engines, especially the 2.0 model. Ford modified the design from closed deck to open deck. The scores added between cylinders was a fatal design error. The coolant deteriorates the head gasket allowing coolant intrusion into the cylinders. As that intrusion increases the engine is compromised beyond repair and only a properly designed replacement engine will resolve the issue. If the nuyer’s warranty has ended, they are out of pocket for thousands due to Ford’s irresponsible behavior. BTW, there have been successful turbocharged small displacement engines around for many years.
“Moreover, there’s no evidence to suggest that small-displacement turbos have had reliability issues. “We’ve been increasingly seeing vehicles with downsized turbocharged engines for a number of years now, and we haven’t seen any particular negative impact on durability or reliability,” Sam Abuelsamid, senior analyst for Navigant Research, told Design News.”
Very good post! A couple of other issues, the 4 bangers have the turbo mounted on the block, the stop-start (idiotic feature) allows for heat sink, remember the exhaust gas temp in the turbos regularly runs 1400 degrees, and can go much higher. Most people over 30 years old, remember when stopping and staring your engine was a primary cause of engine wear-not to mention things such as battery life, starter life, etc. Not only should these failures have been predicted (in a way they were) but these little 4 bangers should have been tested. I think they were tested, and it was decided the vast majority of failures would be out of warranty-and the profit was so high-ford said-let them roll. SAD
This reminds me of the Focus/Fiesta DCT disaster that Ford denied for years. Then when their hand is forced by a class action lawsuit they decide to start shelling out the bucks.
Have a 2019 Escape. Having owned it only 15 months with 18,059 miles, check engine light came on (but not blinking) in January 2021. Brought into dealership. Whole “short block” needed replacing. Thought it was very odd that no previous indicator lights came on, no engine overheating-nothing. Just read letter about from law firm this is a running issue.
Our 2015 Ford Escape had its engine replaced in 2019–so if your 2019’s engine failed, that tells me that the replacement engine will likely fail, as well. Ford made a calculated decision on these engines much like the calculated decision to not fix the Ford Pinto fuel tanks–and we know how that went. Ford estimated that the lawsuits would cost far less than the cost to recall and repair all of the Pintos–very grim arithmetic, indeed! Never mind the charred bodies that resulted! So Ford figures that enough of these Ecoboost engines will fail outside the warranty so as not to take too much of a bite from Ford’s profits. There are three things we can do about such “corporate think”: (1) sue the hell out of Ford over the faulty engines (a class action lawsuit is already under way); (2) get the media to give Ford hell; and (3) not buy any more Ford cars or trucks. Maybe when some car makers go out of business for putting out crap, the others will get the message. As for me, I’m completely done with American cars!
James, I like your post; however, I would like to point out that ford escapes only had 45% of the entire cars parts made in the USA! It wears an American brand name, but 55% is made out of our country, go figure….
royl, I would like to point out that while the information in your post is totally correct it is completely irrelevant to James’ situation. No matter where the parts are sourced, no matter where they are assembled, these engines were designed or misdesigned by Ford and foisted on an unsuspecting car buying public. As for James not wanting to buy Fords anymore, surely you agree that’s underestandable. As for James declaring he’s done with American cars, that’s a bit over the top but certainly understandable. Have a nice day…
I also own a 2017 ford escape with the 2 0 enginit too also sprung an antifreeze leak which got into the number 1 cylinder after speaking to the dealer and ford direct they thanked me and assured me my car would be reported to Carfax and have a nice day
Now I owe 3 years on a loan and a car worth $000
I own a 2017 Ford Edge. Had it for only a few months when all of a sudden it the air stopped working then in a few days it ran hot. Was told it needed a head gasket set. It’s a 2.0 4 cy. I called everywhere, couldn’t get a part for it. It’s been down since July of last year. I tried to get the dealership who I bought it from to let me trade it in. They said they couldn’t. And it hasn’t been repossessed even after I stopped paying it. I was without a vehicle and have several medical issues needing my was a must. How do I join this lawsuit? What steps should I take at this point?
Frustrating!
I’m absolutely mind blown that anybody would buy a Ford after the constant scandals pumping out of there one after the other! They definitely have a way of silencing people before their cries make it to media because if it was any other company selling goods that were causing such a large number of the population that results in devastation, the media would lynch them! Somebody needs to do a documentary starting with the Power stroke 6.0, then the Triton 4.6/5.4, the Ecoboost 3.5, the Power stroke 6.4, and the Power stroke 6.7. ALL of these, very problematic design flaws & Ford took accountability for NONE of it! People’s lives ruined by some of them, businesses destroyed by some of them, I’m sure ultimately families destroyed over financial problems and probably suicide related to it. It wasnt uncommon for Diesel customers to spend 50-100 thousand dollars on their trucks over 5 years just to keep it on the road! I used to like Ford products, but they’re scum of the Earth now..
Ford is using the same “bean-counter philosophy” that led to the un-recalled, exploding Pintos of the 1970s. Ford actually weighed the costs associated with a recall against how much money they’d likely pay out in lawsuits, and made the cold, soulless calculation to just weather the lawsuits! Never mind the people who would continue to burn up in rear-ended Pintos!
Same kind of thinking is going on in Ford’s boardroom today.
In order to keep the media “silent” you need to do a few things: buy lots of ads-they don’t want to write off that income!, support woke ideas, the left wing media loves it when a large company is taking a knee to their dictates, slobber over left wing politicos. Once you’ve gotten these directives in place, you’ll be able to sell crap for years-and no one will scream! Sad.
I posted previously with this issue with my 2015 Ford Fusion 1.5L. I ordered the parts through ford with the new block design total part cost was $1900, my dad rebuilt the engine with no experience, he used the repair service manual. For an update my car runs great now, ordering the parts and having my dad do the job saved me tons of money. I still keep the receipts so now I only hope for a recall or reimbursement for cost.
God Bless Your Father! $1900.00 is cheap to get out of this thing. Sell that piece of crap, while it’s running, protect yourself, but please don’t buy another piece of crap. I’ll bet if you knew about the fords 2 liter problems prior to you fusion, you would have looked at another brand. It’s good news for you, I’m sure everyone else on the board is happy for you too.
Have a 2019 Ford Edge 34400 miles and told it needs an engie leaking in cyclnders 1 and 3,. Should be covered under factory warranty have not heard a thing in a week from the dealership. Cost me 200 to have hauled to dealer broke down 150 miles from our town at 11 at night. Deer told me was turbo at first then day we were to leave for vacation with that vehicle told me about leaks. I took it upon myself to rent a vehicle from enterprise and just have kept it. Dealer paying for it. Good luck to everyone I am waiting to see what Ford will do.
2019 edge week 5 in thes shop. 28k Hope they can fix it and runs long enough to trade. I am driving a T***** as a loaner. Its too bad, I am giving lots of grace time. The consumer as well as vender should not be subjected to undue hardship created by manufacturer. I love fords but can no longer put myself and word at economic risk.
You are inside the powertrain warranty, so you should get a new engine at no charge, just as I did with my 2015 Escape SE a couple of years ago. However, it took about six weeks to get the new engine and get it installed, and the dealer did not put a trickle charger on the battery, so its life was reduced by about 1/2. Had to get a new battery this year–it was only 2 1/2 years old.
You are inside the powertrain warranty–so Ford MUST replace your engine free of charge. That’s what they did for mine. Ford’s faulty engine design and manufacturing allows coolant to leak into the cylinders. You are one of the lucky ones. Many had an engine fail outside the regular warranty or powertrain warranty. So they got stuck with a $12,000 bill to replace the engine! Supposedly a redesigned engine with thicker cylinder walls has been going in as a replacement. Good luck!
I bought my 2016 ford edge from my brother in law with around 45000 miles. I put on another 20000 miles on it mostly all highway and I notice my antifreeze was running low. I took it to the shop and they could not find anything leaking. Filled it up and went on my way about a week later the car started bucking and about to stall out and got a tow truck. Took it to ford dealership and they told me it needs an engine. Its going to cost some where around $7000, and 5to8 weeks. Can’t afford a new car for that price so I was hooked. Then they tell me I need to pay half up front. I don’t know about you but I didn’t have $3500 hanging around so I put it on a credit card. As I did research found hundreds of complaints for same issue. Can anyone help me?
The 1.5L and 1.6L engines are members of the so-called Sigma engine family, while the 2.0L is sired from the Mazda L family. I’m guessing it’s a manufacturing defect since there is no interchange between L and Sigma.
That said, there is a TSB for coolant intrusion on vehicles with the newer 2.0L Ecoboost (the one with the twin scroll turbo).
Reading all of the comments pertaining to Ford’s 1.5L Ecoboost engine issues. Recently experienced this problem as well. Have a 2015 Ford Fusion SE Luxury package that has just over 100,000 miles on it. Check engine light came on recently. Took the car in for various repairs to try and resolve the issue spending about $1,000. Engine light returned so decided to take it into the local Ford dealership for evaluation last week. Get a call the next day from the FORD mechanic telling us that the car needs a new engine because the coolant is leaking all over the cylinders and mixing with the engine oil. The FORD mechanic proceeded to tell us that Ford is aware of this problem with their 1.5L Ecoboost engines but has done NOTHING to remedy the problem. Wow, their own mechanics are embarassed and won’t stand behind them. Now we have no choice but to replace the car. The car has been garage kept, regularly maintenanced, and is otherwise pristine inside and out. FORD needs to get their act together. In doing more research and consulting other mechanics, come to find out this is REALLY a problem that FORD has known about for years and done NOTHING! Wow. Can’t believe a huge company like FORD would hang their reputation on the line and expose themselves to such a huge liability. Disgusting! This would be a great story for 60 minutes and/or the evening national news! Horrible. Stand behind your products FORD! Hard working people don’t want to spend their hard earned cash on defective products and the companies who make them and refuse to make it right! Shame on you! Pass the word people……………………..
Happened to our 2015 Fusion at 70k miles. Congrats to you getting to 100k! We just spent $4,800 on a used engine for it with a 30k / 3 miles warranty. We will ditch it before the warranty is up, or it will fail too and we can get replaced again then ditch. Awful !! We will never buy another Fixed Or Repaired Daily!!!
We have a Ford Fusion 2016 1.5 eco boost,and we have bought 3 different engines for it,and it still is not the right one,so what can I do about this
Ford Edge 2018, 2.0 Ecoboost motor, 69K miles, with PO303 engine warning light, diagnosed as a leaking long block, $6300 replacement cost and no help from Ford. Regional mechanics confirm this is a common occurrence. Expected more from Ford, disappointed and seeking relief via public and private means.
I am so sorry that FORD has let you all down. I am currently driving my 24th Ford since I was 16. I have even had four Edges. A 2013, 2015, 2018, and now a 2021. Three of them have been Edges with 2.0 EcoBoost engines, but the 2013 was with a normally aspirated 3.5 litre. Together, I have put 189,000 on the four Edges to date. The 2021 has 3000 miles on it now, and it is in the shop. The Fuel pump suddenly started making a horrible rattling sound. There were no engine lights, so I took it to my Ford dealer immediately. They have ordered parts, but I do not know what happened to the engine yet. It doesn’t sound good. It is under warranty, and I have the 100,000 mile extended warranty too, but a new $45,000 car should not be “broken” within 3,000 miles! I’ll let you know what the issues were when I find out.
My 2017 Edge with 19000 miles had engine light come on. Checked oil and it was almost a quart low. Took it in and they said Ford is replacing the engine due to oil in the coolant. I asked if they could put the 2.7 L in but they said no. I’m glad it is still under the powertrain warranty. I’m still a Ford guy. I’ve had the same problem with a Chevy engine. But all these comments make me leery and quite sure how long I’ll keep it.
A few months after I bought my Ford Edge with the 2.0 EcoBoost, the engine light came on, and was low on coolant, took it to the shop and they said needs engine replaced. WTH!!! So as I am doing my research, I see that this not uncommon and yet still Ford has done nothing to correct the problem. Shame on you Ford!!! So now my question, will the 3.5l v6 fit in my 2017? What about replacing, fixing heads? New head gasket?? An help/advise would be greatly appreciated!
The engine cannot be repaired. What happened to your engine was the result of a bad casting of the engine block at the factory. The badly cast blocks had a porosity problem. Cracks and fissures may occur and then spread. What happens then is that coolant can enter the cylinders and cause misfires; eventually, all of your coolant will go out the tail pipe! Hopefully you are still under the power train warranty; if not, my advice is to junk the car and never buy another Ford.
I have a 2014 Ford Escape 2.0L engine, but as far as I know have not had any issues with it, so sorry this is happening to others, but something for individuals like me need to know. I pray that I don’t have this issue, cause those pricing are out of my price range.
I’m just another victim of Ford’s coolant intrusion. My 2016 Escape never even gave me a check engine or temperature warning prior to failure. Ford wouldn’t cover a dime because it wasn’t a 2017. Now I sit anxiously awaiting the results of the law suits and wondering how to cut my losses. Fords have been the primary cars in my family for generations. Not anymore.
My husband is another victim to the Ford Eco boost malfunction… He has a 2016 Ford Fusion 1.5L 4 cylinder and can’t believe we need a new engine. I drive a Honda accord 2000 with no issues. This really makes Ford look bad not helping their customers. I must spread the news about this. He is still financing this vehicle and looks like he must pay out another 4k to 5k to get an engine just for it to mess up again due to how this engine is built. This is so wrong . I told him to get rid of it. and never mess with a Ford again.
I recommend junking it. You will never recover the cost of the new engine. And you could get a new engine that would similarly fail in a couple of years. Ford really messed up with these faulty Ecoboost engines, which had badly cast engine blocks from the factory in the UK. Ford should replace each and every bad engine. But they won’t. That’s why a class-action lawsuit has been filed against Ford in Delaware.
I’m having the same problems with my wife’s 2017 Escape. We had the TSB work done before the 60k mile warranty expired hoping to avoid any expired warranty problems. Nothing doing. I spent almost $500 to have a Ford “tech” tell me what my 30 years of working on vehicles experience had already told me. The typical problems (coolant consumption, misfires cause by coolant intrusion and the good ‘ol white smoke out the exhaust) cause by coolant intrusion. And to top it off, Ford basically said “it sucks to be you, but you’re out of warranty…sorry”.
Nooooooo problem Ford, that will be the last Ford vehicle that I will EVER own, despite over 30 years of loyality.
I had forgotten that FORD stands for Found On Road Dead when I bought my 2017 Ford Edge and now I am replacing the engine due to the EcoBoost issue. I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER FORD AGAIN FOR AS LONG AS I LIVE!
This past week my 2017 Explorer’s temperature gauge alerted my car was overheating, I notice the coolant reservoir was low and added coolant. Teh engine light was on too. I had an experienced auto mechanic take a look and he advised that that my vehicle’s coolant was likely leaking into my cylinder head and this was a common problem with Ford’s 2.5 4 cylinder EcoBoost engines. I now have to bring this to my local Ford dealership that is apparently backed up with repairs. I bought the Explorer off of my lease. Now I fear I am stuck with a lemon. I’ve leased Fords for the past 10 years. Never again.
I’m having the same problem. Out of warranty. Can’t get any help from Ford. This is devastating. I did not know about this problem before I purchased and I thought did thorough research. I can’t afford to fix the car, can’t afford to buy another car, can’t afford not to have a car.
I’m no engineer, but common sense tells me, if the Cylinder wall is made too thin, it will crack under normal use. Who’s the bean counter that made the decision to build a catastrophic engine failure
as sure thing.
Another ford escape 2.0l turbo which requires a replacement engine after less than 60000 miles but just after the drive train warranty of 5 years. Negotiating. They think we should pay a 40% of the cost of the new engine because we are going to use the car when it is fixed. We had all the suggested maintenance done at the dealership. Why do we buy cars from these people? I have gotten over 120k out of a Mazda and a Nissan. All I did was pay attention to maintenance. The Ford looks like a good deal when you buy it but then no.
Ford jumped on the bandwagon to produce lighter, more powerful and more efficient small engines–in a bid to stay ahead of the federal fuel economy standards. Unfortunately, when an engine is built more for the purpose of achieving fuel economy than to last, you get these problems. The earlier EcoBoost engines had cooling channels between the cylinders, resulting in the cylinder walls being too thin. This problem was exacerbated by a run of bad castings at the Ford UK engine plant. Some 94,000 EcoBoost engines have failed. Ford should have extended the warranty to 100,000 miles, at a minimum. The problem with paying 40% of the new engine cost is that the cost may exceed the current value of the car. I had my engine in a 2015 Escape replaced under the powertrain warranty–it had failed around 36,000 miles! That replacement was 2 years ago, and so far no more problems. But others have had replacement engines fail, as well. Supposedly Ford made some design changes to strengthen the cylinder walls. If you can get one of the redesigned engines, it could be worth it to go with the 40%. Usually, Ford offers customers nothing if they are outside the warranty. Weigh your options, and then decide if it is better to cut your losses now or to take a chance that a new engine could last another 60,000 or even 100,000 miles. We do know that not ALL of the EcoBoost engines failed.
My 2018 Ford Escape just had it’s heart transplant ( engine rebuilt) and is running well, but my fingers are crossed. I asked Ford for an extended warranty
, it’s really the LEAST they could do, they have known about this problem for years. I would NOT have purchased the car if I knew about it. I thought long and hard about trading it, but at the end of day, it was paid off and yes, i know that I am risking my trade equity yada yada yada. I wish I knew what was best to do.
I got my engine replaced two years ago, and SO FAR it is doing OK. I do know that a number of replacement engines have also failed. My advice is that, if you can, trade in your Escape on a Toyota. The Toyotas seem to last forever. I am not ever going to buy an American car again. Every time I think they have learned their lesson, I am yet again disappointed. They’ll never get another chance with me!
Why are no Lincoln MKZ owners in on this lawsuit or forum?
Is the MKZ 2.0 eco boost built differently?
I would think these are the same engine, and should be included.
Can Lincoln owners get in on the lawsuit if they have the same issue?
Can someone please explain and expand on this?
68000kms, same coolant leaking problem in the cylinders, 2.0 l ecoboost turbo, totally crazy for the main component to be defective without any compensation. head gasket, turbo, etc i have no problem fixing, but the block?????????????
Anybody know why the 1.0L 3-cylinder turbo ecoboost was left off the class action list? Our 2014 Fiesta had the same failure as happened with all the other ecoboost engines, and over in Great Britain Ford is covering the full replacement costs of an engine replacement.
Given that the 1.0L ecoboost engines are no longer being manufactured for the US market, and inventory is gone (they cost $3,000+ if you can find one) it sure seems like customer satisfaction is Job #1 at Ford. And to make matters worse, dealerships in Los Angeles say getting through backlogged repairs will take 6 months at least to do the swap!
Alas, my 2019 mustang 2.3L ecoboost has just been plagued with that horrific coolant leak issue. The dealership had it for 5 days before giving it back and telling me they have ordered a short block so I “can” drive it while we wait for the parts to come in. I don’t know if I want to if it’s gonna completely go while I’m driving it but it’s my only vehicle. Luckily, I bought the extended PT warranty otherwise I would have to junk it for a used crappy but probably more reliable car.
Lucky you, the top of the line warranty we purchased did not cover this problem in my 2018 Escape because it wasn’t a “mechanical” failure, it was a manufacturer defect. HORSE SH#*
You have excellent grounds for a lawsuit! Find an attorney who will take it on a contingency fee basis!
I recommend you consult an attorney over this. I think they are BSing you. They figure it won’t hurt to try. If they are threatened with a lawsuit they’ll probably pay you for the motor!
Well folks, the replacement engine in my 2015 Ford Escape just blew. The dealer wants over $13,000 to replace the defectively-designed and -manufactured piece of crap EcoBoost engine. That won’t happen. It will be junked–parted out. No use throwing good money after bad.
The Eco-Boost engine is a complete design failure, as all these engine failures aptly demonstrate. Ford owes us big time, but is ignoring the problem. There’s one thing I know for sure—NO MORE FORDS, EVER!!! I wouldn’t accept a brand-new one free! From now on it’s going to be Toyota–a company that knows how to make engines last more than 36,000 miles!
Well, folks, our 2015 Ford Escape’s SECOND EcoBoost engine died two weeks ago. We sold the car for its scrap value. A new engine would have cost $13,200 Canadian–higher than the vehicle’s Blue Book value. And we KNEW that a THIRD engine would also most likely ALSO be defective. Since we live in Canada, we cannot join the US class-action lawsuit. I’ve emailed several class-action Canadian lawyers, with no result. Maybe the lawyers in Canada are scared of Ford? In any case, we’re done with Ford. We’ll never, ever even consider having another one. Ford knows these engines are defective; they should have done a recall or extended powertrain warranties out to 200,000 miles. Our first engine blew at around 36,000 miles, and the second one had no more than 25,000 miles on it when it also blew. My advice to people is NOT to buy a replacement engine if your vehicle is out of warranty–because most likely it, too, will fail. These engines seem to be good for no more than 30,000 – 50,000 miles before they blow–the usual cause being coolant leaking into the cylinders through cracks in the engine block. Ford has shafted its customers with this line of engines. I hope that they are sued into bankruptcy.
So, we just got a letter from Ford offering to buy our 2018 Escape for $1000 over blue book. This is after we spent $6000 out of pocket for a new motor because our top of the scale warranty we bought did not cover “manufacture defects”. We still owe about $10,000 on the car, I’m sure the blue book doesn’t even come close.
THEY HAVE SOME NERVE!
Beth, I advise you to take it–or to trade it for a Toyota right now. But don’t buy another Ford! You’ve seen how little they value their customers. Your second engine will also fail–it’s just a matter of a short time. I know–my second engine failed and so have thousands of others. It’s a defective design topped off by a defective manufacturing process. You need to get out of that Ford before the replacement motor goes. Find a used Toyota in the meantime. They know how to make vehicles that last—and Ford doesn’t. Please act quickly–the clock is ticking on your new motor!
Same issue as everyone else. I’ll buy another car before another engine. I used Bar’s Head Seal Blown Head Gasket Repair the one with carbon fiber in the grey bottle. It’s been going strong about a year since.
Good Luck everyone !
Dumb question Aaron, but where do you dump the Bar’s Head Seal Blown Head Gasket Repair into, to stop the coolant from leaking into a cylinder?
January 2023 we bought a 2018 Ford Edge Titanium with Ecoboost 2.0 engine from a KIA dealership in Clarksville, Indiana. Within the first 2 weeks while still under the dealership 30 day warranty, the Check Engine Light lit up. I took it to our local mechanic who installed new iridium spark plugs and indicated that we had misfires on cylinder #4. A few days later the CEL lit up again. I then took it back to the KIA dealership and their tech said nothing was wrong with the vehicle and cleared the CEL. The CEL lit up again after a few days and I began to notice minor coolant consumption. Local mechanic installed a new ignition coil on cylinder #4 and advised us to watch the coolant level closely. A few days later the CEL lit up again and I noticed further coolant consumption. My next step is to have local mechanic use a boresight to inspect cylinders for coolant. If the coolant is present in any cylinder I’ll have to decide how to proceed.
It’s coolant intrusion. These engines are defectively designed. Some 98,000 are KNOWN to have failed. A new engine will set you back $12,000 – $13,000 and it, too, is guaranteed to fail before 50,000 miles—more like 20 – 25,000 miles. I’m sure the KIA dealership will say, “So sorry!” Your best bet is to take it back to them or to another dealer and trade it in PRONTO! If you have to, get your mechanic to remove the thermostat and use one of those head gasket sealers to see if you can drive it long enough–maybe a week to a month or two–to trade it! Sorry! Ford does NOT stand behind its products!!!
Bought a used 2017 Ford Escape only has 56,000 mi. I’ve driven it for less than 3,000 mi and now the dreaded P0301 code has popped up, misfire cylinder one, low coolant in the reservoir. Vehicle started running really rough with white smoke in the tailpipe. From what I understand I will need a new engine. I have the extended warranty but what a big pain, I’ve bought Ford’s religiously my entire life, this may change.
Here’s the kicker. Your replacement engine will also fail within 25,000 miles. It’s a defective design. Ford knows it is a defective design, but isn’t going to do anything about it. If Toyota or Honda had put out such an engine, they would have done a recall. But not Ford. Our second EcoBoost engine in our 2015 Ford Escape blew. The first blew around 36,000 miles, and the second blew at around 20,000 miles. Some 98,000 engines have blown that we know about. Other car makers could make light four-cylinder engines that do not fail. But not Ford. This is why I will never, ever have another Ford car in our driveway. Never!
Yea, this really sucks. I have a 2014 Ford Escape that we tried to have the heads rebuilt on it after experiencing these same problems. We only got 6 months out of it. It is now sitting in our drive way. I was hoping it could be fixed with a normally aspirated engine. I haven’t found any answer for it yet.
Adding my name to the list. Bought a 2017 Ford Edge ($41k) and at 62,000 miles began seeing the loss of coolant, the check engine light and had to replace the motor for $7500. Ford will not help in any way. Seeing this thread and knowing this is just a fraction of the people that Ford has done this to is very frustrating.
Just bought my dad’s 2015 Fusion with Eco-boost. Only 48K miles! 2 weeks later, same problem. Coolant in cylinder 3. My mechanic said a resurfaced head and new gaskets would keep me from having to buy a new engine, but now having watched the tech’s video here, I know why these engines fail. A resurfaced head won’t help with the open deck system. Wow. Will cost more to put a new block in than the car’s worth. Why would a well-known company want to self-destruct in this way? To lose the trust of so many customers? I won’t ever get near a Ford again!
I’ve been Ford owner my whole driving life (50+ years) and have now recognized that Ford is not the company I will trust going forward.
Our 2018 Ford Edge Titanium AWD with only 75,000 miles has been identified / diagnosed as having symptoms of head gasket / cylinder wall failure on the #3 cylinder (P0303 code). Coolant is being consumed at a rate that requires the transportation of refill quantities to equal the trip anticipated. This is our 3rd Ford Edge and was hoping to be able to apply as many miles as we had been able to on our earlier models (each had roughly 150,000+ miles each). Ford’s customer position was to sell us the vehical and fingers crossed the warranty ended moments before the product failure which was a known design flaw. This company is not one that I will continue to do business with. Shame shame Ford…
Wifes 2018 Escape just started doing the same thing. 60,000km on odo, loss of coolant, #3 missfire, she can’t even drive it. 60,000km is *#%# all for milage, this shouldnt be happening. We have to figure out what to do. What a kick in the balls.
Also to add to this, a coworker has the same 1.5 and had to replace the block to the new design. I think it was around $8000 bill for a design flaw and no fault of the customer. &$#% Ford.
There’s nothing to do but junk the vehicle and vow to never, ever trust Ford again. They do not care about their customers. They get your money and then they cut you off. From now on it’s Toyota for us!
I own a 2016 Ford Edge 2.0 Eco Boost with 81,500 miles. Engine light came on, took it to local mechanic who discovered a misfire in cylinder 2 and noticed coolant reservoir was extremely low. To my horror, coolant is leaking into cylinder 2 and I now need a new motor. This clearly is a Ford issue, yet Ford continues to sell these motors with a known defect, it’s criminal.
Has a Class Action lawsuit been filed, and if yes, can anyone provide information on how to join it? 2017 Ford Edge, 2.0, coding for P0303. Replaced plugs and ignition coils, code comes back. Coolant level was low, so assume same issue as others with coolant leaking into the cylinder.
I own a 2016 ford escape with a 1.6 with 77000 miles and it is leaking antifreeze into cylinder 2 and 4, codes po302 and po304 my car is at the dealer, they said it needs a new motor. Ford should do a recall for this problem they created.
Ford changed the design of these engines in late 2019 – early 2020. But Ford doesn’t give a whit about the people it stuck with the old, defective engines. Ford doesn’t care about its customers–only about its C-suite and its stockholders. Everyone else, as far as Ford is concerned, can go to hell.
My first and last Ford, I know now why they say found on the road dead. I bought a 2014 focus 1.5 SE used from a nice older couple and they never had any problems with it. This thing was really nice for almost a year. We go to visit our son in Tennessee and make it 2 exits from his house we get ps0301 which is malfunctioning on #1 they put racing spark plugs, change both coil packs, all while we’re on the side of the mountain, then we tow it home she’s been broken since march. We just did a compression test and they are all good but #1. So looks like we got to take apart the engine and see what’s wrong. It’s a POS Ford. I should have got a Honda or the Chevy Camaro that I wanted. I got to figure out how to pay for or get a good 1.5 engine when they all seem to be broken. That’s going to be the fun part! Now to get on the class action suit.
That code is referring to a misfire in cylinder #1, which is where the problem usually starts. It’s a coolant leak into the cylinder, causing the misfire. There is no cure for it. The entire engine must be replaced. Now, if you get an engine with the same design and manufacturing defects, it will likely go no more than 25,000 – 40,000 miles before it starts misfiring, too. Ford knew this was a problem and quietly redesigned the engine for later model 2019 models and for the follow-on years. Ford ditched the channels between the cylinders, which caused the cylinder walls to be too thin. Latent cracks eventually expand and you get the leaks. I’m also done with Ford. Their company is run by bean-counters. Now we have a Toyota–a company run by engineers!