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March 28, 2023 at 8:58 am #157583
MikeyrInScott
ParticipantWe bought a 2018 Ford Edge Titanium in January 2023 from a KIA dealership in Clarksville Indiana, I wish I had researched the Ecoboost 2.0 engine failures first. If I had we would not have made this purchase. We have been getting Check Engine Light (CEL) lighting up frequently and the vehicle is now consuming coolant. It’s probably the beginning of the end for this motor. We can only hope the 3rd party extended warranty we also purchased will pay for the inevitable engine replacement. So far, we replaced the sparkplugs and one of the ignition coild on cylinder #4. My OBD-II indicates misfires on cylinder #4, code p0304 which is unusual because this issue usually involves cylinders #3 and #4.
It is unconscionable that Ford has refused to do a recall for what is clearly a manufacturing defect. At the very least, Ford should do for Ecoboost 2.0 owners what they have done for Ecoboost 1.5 owners. I read a lady’s post online whose 1.5 engine was replaced and 95,000 miles. Apparently, people have to die from crashes and/or engine fires before they step up. If you are shopping for a car, avoid the Ecoboost 2.0 engine on all vehicles prior to 2021…
March 29, 2023 at 6:55 pm #157810wbyguy
ParticipantFirst of all why would Ford have a recall because you have an engine misfire? The coil pack and sparkplug on cylinder 4 may not even be your issue since it was changed. A bad fuel injector can also cause a misfire and give you the same coil. As far as cool and consumption they only cause of this is a leak in the system. Faulty water pump or head gasket can be caused of the leak. At 95,000 miles this sounds like a common maintenance issue for any make or brand automobile. Have a competent Ford mechanic diagnose the issue properly.
March 30, 2023 at 4:35 am #157815LostInTransit
ParticipantWe have a Transit Connect with a 2.0L I4 engine not to be confused with the ecoboost 2.0L engine and we’ve gotten ( 1 ) misfire within the last 3 years and only because we opted to run full e85 fuels in the van. Although the van ran great the misfire came when we topped of the full tank with 10.00 USD. According to the owners manual, one shouldn’t top off the tank with less than 10.00 worth of fuel. Instead they should wait until at least half a tank to refuel. Mind you when one researches the specs of the van it shows that the 2.0L also listed as a flex van but doesn’t have the yellow fuel cap. Even taking the van to the dealership, they don’t have a clue as to if the engine is just gasoline or is a flex fuel vehicle. This is why we tried the eFuels and got the misfire. The code was cleared and we’ll avoid the eFuels. Not because they don’t work, but the fuel economy was terrible. That’s was a shame because the van ran like it was on a race track.
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March 30, 2023 at 2:20 pm #157835MikeyrInScott
Participant@wbyguy:
1) Please re-read my original post. The 95,000 miles comment was in regard to a different owner with a different version engine.
2) Pressure tested the cooling system. No leaks. Water pump has no leaks.
3) You mentioned faulty head gasket which is interesting. After much research I found that this is a *known issue* with the Ecoboost 2.0 engine FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON. The engine has grooves scored between the cylinders in an ill conceived attempt to increase cooling. This allows coolant to degrade the head gasket and intrude into cylinder(s) leading to total engine failure. Ford addressed this issue with a redisign around 2020 or 2021. Just watch this YouTube video:
Thanks for your input…April 6, 2023 at 8:57 am #158434MikeyrInScott
ParticipantUPDATE: A friend on a Facebook Group directed me to TSB 22-2229 (Technical Service Bulletin) You can get a copy on the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. These bulletins are available now due to legisltive action; previously, they were only available to the automotive industry. This TSB addresses issues with the Ford Ecoboost 2.0 engine in the 2015 – 2018 Ford Edge and the 2017 – 2019 Fusion/MKZ/Escape and MKC vehicles equipped with the 2.0L Ecoboost engine.
In the description of the issue the TSB refers to “low coolant level, white exhaust smoke and/or a runs rough condition with or without an illuminated malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) [aka, Check Engine Light or CEL]. Diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs) may include P0300, P0301 – P0304, P0316, P0217, P1285 and/or P1299 stored in the Powertrain Control Module (PCM). THIS MAY BE DUE TO COOLANT INTRUSION INTO THE CYLINDER. TO CORRECT THE CONDITION, FOLLOW THE SERVICE PROCEDURE TO REPLACE THE LONG BLOCK ENGINE ASSEMBLY. (Capitals added by me for emphasis)
September 5, 2023 at 4:02 pm #171129MikeyrInScott
ParticipantOur 2018 Edge Titanium AWD with Ecoboost 2.0 engine is at the Ford dealership for testing and diagnosis. Our coolant consumption has continued, requiring frequent topoffs to avoid overheating issues. Misfires on cylinder #4 also continue per OBDII readout, p0304. There have been no noticeable coolant leaks, leading to the suspiscion that coolant is invading the cylinder. Per Ford’s TSB #22-2229, if this situation is confirmed a long block replacement is the indicated fix per the TSB.
Recently our Edge has been harder to start. The last time we experienced telltale “white smoke” from both tailpipes. At that point we took it to a local Ford dealership. If the cooling system pressure tests no leaks and coolant is detected by boresight, the engine will have to be replaced.
When we bought the Edge from a KIA dealership, we also bought a PowerProtect warranty on the drivetrain. The dealership and the warranty company are hopefully working to fix this issue under the warranty.
April 21, 2024 at 11:18 am #189007JoeTalks
ParticipantI have nearly the same problem. Bought a used vehicle from a reputable dealer. Didn’t even get the license plates on it yet and got a CEL. Did the same thing, changed plugs and coil packs. Still have the issue. With some research, found the technical bulletin, did the pressure test, and it failed. Used a borescope and can clearly see water in the #2 cylinder. Unfortunately, it took just a few more miles than the 1000 mile warranty to see and determine the root cause of the issue. Car is a 2017, and only had 37k miles on it. Not sure what the next steps will be. Does anyone have current info on the class action lawsuit? Anyone have luck getting Ford to address the issue? Have read some comments about taking Ford to small claims court, but haven’t seen any feedback on the outcomes. I have a feeling I may be eating this one. Can’t trust anyone these days
April 21, 2024 at 3:19 pm #189008MikeyrInScott
ParticipantA class action lawsuit if forming. If you end up out of pocket for the 2.0 Ecoboost engine failure, keep all receipts and paperwork. Make sure you are getting the new designed engine to replace the faulty designed engine. Here is a link to the lawfirm handling the consolidated case:
http://www.lieffcabraser.com
Contact them and enroll in the legal action against Ford. Just bear in mind these things take a lot of time to develop…Best wishes! MikeAugust 21, 2024 at 4:34 pm #199378Nerakg
ParticipantOver 100,000 Ford owners have reported the same issue: coolant leaking into the engine. I have a 2017 Escape Titanium 2.0L ecoboost engine. The car does not even have 65,000 miles on it. I do regular maintenance and oil changes. The car started overheating and stalling. A mechanic examined it and told me that coolant has leaked into the oil. I towed it to the Ford dealership for an official diagnosis. Indeed, I am a victim of the infamous coolant intrusion. Ford is so aware of it that they have the recommendation on their repair site: new long block. The cost of the repair is over $8,000, which is steep for me with 2 children in college. Basically, that’s a whole new engine with an improved long block they have. This means that they know and knew better after the first 1.5l ecoboost lawsuit. I would have forgiven them if they owned up to the mistake and repaired the vehicle. The fact that I had to join a class action lawsuit causes me to continuously preach the message against this disingenuous fraudulent company. I will NEVER buy another Ford! There is a reason why people say F-O-R-D stands for Fix Or Repair Daily or Found On Road Dead. They are heartless! How unethical and money hungry can you be? The car could literally catch on fire and kill innocent people. It would be such karma if a 2.0l ecoboost conked out in front of those responsible for not agreeing to repairs and caused them major harm. I’m not saying that’s my wish. I’m only stating the irony of karma. I have no car right now.
September 6, 2024 at 2:10 pm #200744buek
ParticipantDid you have any luck with the 3rd party warranty on this issue? This just recently started happening on my 2017 Ford Escape. Pretty much exact same situation, the cylinder 2 misfire, white smoke from exhaust, draining coolant, and troubles starting. I’ve had the car 3 years, and these issues just started occurring a few days ago. Someone pointed out the TSB to me and I found this forum.
I did purchase a “lifetime Engine” warranty with the vehicle and I’m wondering if it’s even worth looking into. -
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