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MikeyrInScott
ParticipantA class action lawsuit if forming. If you end up out of pocket for the 2.0 Ecoboost engine failure, keep all receipts and paperwork. Make sure you are getting the new designed engine to replace the faulty designed engine. Here is a link to the lawfirm handling the consolidated case:
http://www.lieffcabraser.com
Contact them and enroll in the legal action against Ford. Just bear in mind these things take a lot of time to develop…Best wishes! MikeMikeyrInScott
ParticipantYou should be okay with a 2022 Ecoboost 2.0L. I understand they changed the faulty design around 2020.
MikeyrInScott
ParticipantI was told that there is a class action lawsuit. It is in California. If you are a California resident you may be able to particpate in the class action. The lawfirm is Capstone Law APC. That’s all I know at this point…
I live in Indiana so I am unable to particpate. They said to keep all repair receipts. There is always the possibility that the class action could go national, but when? Who knows?
MikeyrInScott
ParticipantI found a video on YouTube under “Ford 2.0L Ecoboost Engine Misfire and Coolant Consumption Issue Fix!” The video outlines the issues involved and the required repair.) Depending on the model and the year, the 4 cylinder Ecoboost engines have an issue with coolant intrusion into the cylinder(s). This is covered in detail in Ford’s TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) #22-2229.
Our vehicle is a 2018 Edge Titanium AWD. Our coolant consumption continues requiring frequent topoffs. No visible leaks, so it’s going somewhere. The coolant intrusion is causing misfires on one cylinder (which cylinder is involved can vary.) My understanding is that if the cooling system test is good – no leaks and coolant is found in the cylinder, the engine must be replaced per Ford’s TSB which indicates a long block replacement to fix the issue.
MikeyrInScott
ParticipantOur 2018 Edge Titanium AWD with Ecoboost 2.0 engine is at the Ford dealership for testing and diagnosis. Our coolant consumption has continued, requiring frequent topoffs to avoid overheating issues. Misfires on cylinder #4 also continue per OBDII readout, p0304. There have been no noticeable coolant leaks, leading to the suspiscion that coolant is invading the cylinder. Per Ford’s TSB #22-2229, if this situation is confirmed a long block replacement is the indicated fix per the TSB.
Recently our Edge has been harder to start. The last time we experienced telltale “white smoke” from both tailpipes. At that point we took it to a local Ford dealership. If the cooling system pressure tests no leaks and coolant is detected by boresight, the engine will have to be replaced.
When we bought the Edge from a KIA dealership, we also bought a PowerProtect warranty on the drivetrain. The dealership and the warranty company are hopefully working to fix this issue under the warranty.
MikeyrInScott
ParticipantA Facebook friend directed me to a Ford Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) regarding the coolant consumption and misfires. Ford TSB #22-2229 was issued in June 2022. It clearly directs techs to inspoect cylinder heads for coolant intrusion. Recommended fix is engine replacement. (my paraphrase of the verbiage)
Ford has officially admitted to being aware of this issue since at least June 2022. They have avoided taking any responsibility for the almost inevitable total failure of the Ecoboost 2.0L engines provided from around 2017 to around 2020. Ford redesigned this engine using an ill conceived design that has proven to fail and refuses to be responsible for their grievous engineering error. This defacto denial of responsibility is outrageous.MikeyrInScott
Participant@LostInTransit: Yes, I have already listed complaints with the CarComplaints.com site.
I have also filed complaints with the NHTSA and the Attorney General of Indiana, my state of residence.
Thanks for your input…MikeyrInScott
ParticipantUPDATE: A friend on a Facebook Group directed me to TSB 22-2229 (Technical Service Bulletin) You can get a copy on the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. These bulletins are available now due to legisltive action; previously, they were only available to the automotive industry. This TSB addresses issues with the Ford Ecoboost 2.0 engine in the 2015 – 2018 Ford Edge and the 2017 – 2019 Fusion/MKZ/Escape and MKC vehicles equipped with the 2.0L Ecoboost engine.
In the description of the issue the TSB refers to “low coolant level, white exhaust smoke and/or a runs rough condition with or without an illuminated malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) [aka, Check Engine Light or CEL]. Diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs) may include P0300, P0301 – P0304, P0316, P0217, P1285 and/or P1299 stored in the Powertrain Control Module (PCM). THIS MAY BE DUE TO COOLANT INTRUSION INTO THE CYLINDER. TO CORRECT THE CONDITION, FOLLOW THE SERVICE PROCEDURE TO REPLACE THE LONG BLOCK ENGINE ASSEMBLY. (Capitals added by me for emphasis)
MikeyrInScott
Participant@wbyguy:
1) Please re-read my original post. The 95,000 miles comment was in regard to a different owner with a different version engine.
2) Pressure tested the cooling system. No leaks. Water pump has no leaks.
3) You mentioned faulty head gasket which is interesting. After much research I found that this is a *known issue* with the Ecoboost 2.0 engine FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON. The engine has grooves scored between the cylinders in an ill conceived attempt to increase cooling. This allows coolant to degrade the head gasket and intrude into cylinder(s) leading to total engine failure. Ford addressed this issue with a redisign around 2020 or 2021. Just watch this YouTube video:
Thanks for your input…MikeyrInScott
ParticipantWe bought a 2018 Ford Edge Titanium in January 2023 from a KIA dealership in Clarksville Indiana. I wish I had researched the Ecoboost 2.0 engine first. If I had we would not have made this purchase. We have been getting Check Engine Light (CEL) lighting up frequently and the vehicle is now consuming coolant. It’s probably the beginning of the end for this motor. We can only hope the 3rd party extended warranty we also purchased will pay for the inevitable engine replacement. So far, we replaced the sparkplugs and one of the ignition coild on cylinder #4. My OBD-II indicates misfires on cylinder #4, code p0304 which is unusual because this issue usually involves cylinders #3 and #4.
It is unconscionable that Ford has refused to do a recall for what is clearly a manufacturing defect. At the very least, Ford should do for Ecoboost 2.0 owners what they have done for Ecoboost 1.5 owners. I read a lady’s post online whose 1.5 engine was replaced and 95,000 miles. Apparently, people have to die from crashes and/or engine fires before they step up. If you are shopping for a car, avoid the Ecoboost 2.0 engine on all vehicles prior to 2021…
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